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@tootzkie, THANKS! friend, try ko yan i-suggest sa hubby ko, name mention ko na okey ka mag suggest kaya baka makinig yun lapit na naman ng ACS assessment validity nya sa May na, hu hu hu, hindi pa kami nagle level up.
@LokiJr, nagpa practice naman yan sa home ang hubby ko kaya lang busi busy-han kami pag nandito yan kasi dami rin gawa dito pero okey naman suggestion mo try rin namin, like sa speaking sabi ko sa kanya mag speak kami ng english dito sa home pero sa una lang tapos nalilimutan na nya i-practice cguro this time magse seryoso na yan kasi 2nd take na, bale ba, eh mag bangko kami sa BC ng pera dahil sa kapos kami sa score, ha ha ha.
Like ko pa naman magkita kits tayo sa Oz in the future.
05/17/11 - ACS favorable result released for my husband's skills assessment nominated job-261311 Analyst Programmer.
12/10/11 - Hubby IELTS first take at BC result L & R-5.5, W & S-6.0 OBS=6.0 retake!!!
12/30/11- Hubby registered at 9.0 Niners.
03/15/14 - Hubby's comeback at 9.0 Niners preparing for IELTS test. Second attempt for Australian visa.
05/12/14 - Complete uploading of ACS skills assessment required documents and payment made thru direct deposit.
05/12/14 - ACS assessment application received.
07/02/14 - ACS skills assessment result suitable ANZCO code 262113 Systems Administrator as recommended by CO for hubby's job description rather than ANZCO 261311 Analyst Programmer the first ACS ANZCO result suitable released in 2011. I conclude ACS reclassifies ICT Occupations.
- Work exp. 12yrs. less 6yrs deduction by ACS.
- Educ. Qualification assessed as AQF Associate Degree major in computing for a 4yr. course BS. Computer Science in a section 2 school.
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Nov 30 2013 - IELTS (Academic) @IDP Manila
Dec 13 2013 - IELTS result (L=8.5 R=7.5 W=6.5 S=7)
Dec 14 2013 - Applied for remarking
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Sa mga mag eexam din na katulad ko, try nyo tong site na to kung gusto nyo magreview ng pronunciation, talking dictionary to, hehe.
http://www.howjsay.com/index.php?word=organization&submit=Submit
Goodluck sating lahat!
Occupation: Chemist (ANZSCO 234211)
Jan 07, 2012 - IELTS (GT-BC)
Jan 21, 2012 - L-7.0 R-7.0 W-7.0 S-6.5 Overall: 7.0
February 15, 2012 - documents received by VETASSESS
March 23, 2012- submitted additional docs requested
March 28, 2012- VETASESS Result: Negative
May 12, 2012- IELTS (GT-BC)
May 14, 2012- reassessment (change of occupation to Chemistry Technician, ANZSCO 311411)
May 18, 2012- Vetassess result: Positive
May 26, 2012- L-6.0 R-7.0 W-7.5 S-7.0 Overall: 7.0
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Yung examiner na sinasabi ng husband kong boses ipis, examiner nya, eh si Prescilla Angela Tan Cruz, examiner #998375 sa speaking nya, maliit na babaing, mababa lang daw-tiny voice, ha ha ha!, nun hindi pa raw nya nakikita sabi nya ganda ng name, cguro magandang babae ito, nun nakita nya cute nga pero maliit pati boses comment ni hubby.
@tootzkie, aprub! kay husband nag inquire na sya sa NINERS thru SMS, meron daw special promo ngayon lang na araw na ito effective 12/30/11, P4k daw instead 5k...sayang naman yung 1k. Pa register na kami mamaya lang before 6pm. daw ang closed. Bale Feb. 9 na take ng husband ko.
05/17/11 - ACS favorable result released for my husband's skills assessment nominated job-261311 Analyst Programmer.
12/10/11 - Hubby IELTS first take at BC result L & R-5.5, W & S-6.0 OBS=6.0 retake!!!
12/30/11- Hubby registered at 9.0 Niners.
03/15/14 - Hubby's comeback at 9.0 Niners preparing for IELTS test. Second attempt for Australian visa.
05/12/14 - Complete uploading of ACS skills assessment required documents and payment made thru direct deposit.
05/12/14 - ACS assessment application received.
07/02/14 - ACS skills assessment result suitable ANZCO code 262113 Systems Administrator as recommended by CO for hubby's job description rather than ANZCO 261311 Analyst Programmer the first ACS ANZCO result suitable released in 2011. I conclude ACS reclassifies ICT Occupations.
- Work exp. 12yrs. less 6yrs deduction by ACS.
- Educ. Qualification assessed as AQF Associate Degree major in computing for a 4yr. course BS. Computer Science in a section 2 school.
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Follow your heart but trust your gut.
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8.5 binigay nila sa akin dun hehe
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Follow your heart but trust your gut.
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Sa immigration kasi para makakuha ng 10 points kailangan lahat ng exams niyo 7 each ...at para makakuha ng 20 points, kailangan lahat ng exam results niyo at least 8 or above each.
Sa case ko po, naka 20 points ako kasi 8 above mga lumabas sa IELTS ko...hindi nirround up kung naka decimal ang score niyo.
Yung IELTS results ang may decimal grading, which in immigration requirements medyo non-factor po siya so kung magpapa remark kayo, sana igrant sa inyo is 7 para may points kayo makukuha
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http://www.ielts.org/PDF/UOBDs_WritingT1.pdf
http://www.ielts.org/PDF/UOBDs_WritingT2.pdf
The site below is the band descriptor for Speaking but I doubt if it is officially from IELTS.
http://www.abroadeducation.com.np/test-preparation/ielts/score-pattern.html
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Ang writing at speaking natin ay may mga criteria for judging... so kung ibabase po natin sa writing... ang mga criteria nya ay ang mga sumusunod...
- Task Response
- coherence cohesion
- Lexical Resource
- Grammatical Range and Accuracy
So for example ang writing natin ay nagkaroon ng ganitong score...
Task Response = 9 (nasagot mo yung tanong, perfect kaya 9)
coherence cohesion = 7 (pede na)
Lexical Resource = 7 (pede na rin)
Grammatical Range and Accuracy = 5 (sablay ka sa grammar)
so kung icocompute natin yan ganito...
(9+7+7+5)/4 = 7
so ok walang problema, walang 0.5... pero kung ganito naman ang score mo....
Task Response = 9 (nasagot mo yung tanong, perfect kaya 9)
coherence cohesion = 7 (pede na)
Lexical Resource = 7 (pede na rin)
Grammatical Range and Accuracy = 7 (pede na rin ang grammar)
pag compute...
(9+7+7+7)/4 = 7.5
so, kaya po nagkakaroon ng 0.5 ang mga score natin... base dun sa 4 na criteria...
pero take note, since nag-introduce sila ng half score, ang ginawa nilang standard ay round down...not round up... so kung sample ang score mo ay 7.75 (sample lang) ang score pa rin nyan ay 7.5 NOT 8... kasi nga round down...
hope it helps and sana naliwanagan po kayo....
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like you said, subjective ang writing so we will never know if your British colleague is grading your essay fair enough... suggestion ko lang naman po... you can PM me if you want a copy of the said software.
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Nov 30 2013 - IELTS (Academic) @IDP Manila
Dec 13 2013 - IELTS result (L=8.5 R=7.5 W=6.5 S=7)
Dec 14 2013 - Applied for remarking
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The assessment is subjective so you can always contest its marks -hence, getting the 7 instead of a 6 is possible. I'd like to think na wala sa lahi ng assessor yung basehan ng grades. May standards na sinusunod mga yan kasi...
Mainam po siguro magrequest nga kayo ng remarking. Huwag kayo susuko, pagsubok lang ni Lord yan para makita kung seryoso nga kayo sa pagpunta ng Australia hehe
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Sure, I'm familiar with what you explained because this is what I do for scoring the Writing test of my Grade 2 students. Dito kasi sa Indonesia, yung mga international schools, as early as P1, IELTS style ang test nila sa English. My Speaking, Writing, Reading and Listening, so I know how to score Writing and Speaking using rubric and using criteria for judging na sinasabi mo. I just wonder about the Speaking, just like what I said, kung chineck mo yung pinost kong website, desciptions lang ang ginamit for each band score. Example:
9 - Expert user
8 - Very good user
7 - Good user
and etc.
I don't know if my ginamit din silang rubric or descriptors lang in assessing the Speaking test. Do you know the criteria for judging the Speaking test? I was looking for it in BC website pero wala akong nakita.
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http://www.teachingenglish.org.uk/articles/evaluating-speaking-ielts-speaking-test
http://www.dcielts.com/ielts-speaking/band-scores-explained-2/
Four criteria rin gamit nila namely: Fluency/Coherence, Pronunciation, Lexical Resource at Grammatical Range & Accuracy.
Hope this helps
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May rubric din silang ginagamit sa speaking...
- Fluency and coherence
- Lexical Resource
- Grammatical range and accuracy
- Pronunciation
check this url from british council...
http://www.britishcouncil.org/srilanka-exams-ielts-descriptor-speaking.pdf
and the computation is the same with how I explained from above.
If you are really confident with your speaking and writing, you can have it remark just like what I did.
cheers
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Ayos...so false pala yung sinabi ng coach namin na ballpen dapat gamitin sa Writing part!
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Anyway, we hope you will receive a positive outcome with the remarking
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1. Speaking- Kaylangan bang ikaw ung mag oras sa sarili mo kung tapos na ang 1 minute preparation? o sasabihan ka nmn ng examiner? Ganun din ba sa 2 minutes na pagsagot?
2. Others- Ok lang bang ALL CAPS ung mga sagot sa listening at reading? or strict sila sa casing? Anu ba dapat gamitin sa writing, lapis o ballpen? May factor ba kung 'kabit-kabit' ung sulat mo or printed n lng kaya para mas madaling basahin?
Thank you po. Godbless sa mga katulad kong mag eexam din! Kaya natin to! *sigh hehe
Occupation: Chemist (ANZSCO 234211)
Jan 07, 2012 - IELTS (GT-BC)
Jan 21, 2012 - L-7.0 R-7.0 W-7.0 S-6.5 Overall: 7.0
February 15, 2012 - documents received by VETASSESS
March 23, 2012- submitted additional docs requested
March 28, 2012- VETASESS Result: Negative
May 12, 2012- IELTS (GT-BC)
May 14, 2012- reassessment (change of occupation to Chemistry Technician, ANZSCO 311411)
May 18, 2012- Vetassess result: Positive
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The examiner will tell you as when to stop sa preparation at sa 2 minutes speaking naman hindi naman basta basta kina-cut if di pa tapos sinasabi mo, ewan ko sa experience ng iba. Saka if undertime naman, i-aask ka naman if there's anything else that you would like to add or makikita mo sa facial expression ng examiner na parang hinihintay ka pang magsalita ulit.
Ang alam kong all block letters dun sa information na you need to fill up before the test. But of course sa written test like sa Reading and Listening you have to be conscious of your capitalisation, like for example sa fill in the blanks, minsan yung word nasa start ng sentence or kaya proper noun sya, so I think it matters. For writing, definitely you have to write with correct capitalization kasi may mga punctuations na dito and dito nila makikita how you construct sentences and paragraphs.
Well, according to my IELTS coach dapat ballpen gamitin but nung test day, I asked the proctor ok daw kahit ballpen or pencil. And I think may sumagot na dito sa thread na it doesn't matter whether you use pencil pr pen. In terms of handwriting style, I believe it doesn't matter too as long as it is legible and neat.
I hope I was able to answer all your questions. Good luck on your IELTS!
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kung wala na masabi think of other things to say na may kinalaman sa topic mo... kung ang tanong is what is your favorite food... e puros adobo lang alam mo at paborito mo, so napakasaglit na segundo lang tapos ang agad ang sasabihin mo, pede mo to dagdagan basta may kinalaman pa rin about food like... gusto mo rin ng desert na ganito ganyan... gusto mo rin yung mga exotic na food... gusto mo rin yung adobong manok, baboy, aso, pusa, daga etc... anything about food, wag ka lang lilihis sa topic...
ALL CAPS - well ang turo sa niners... ok lang ang all caps sa mga sagot sa listening at reading, may nabasa din ako somewhere sa internet na ang capitalization is not important sa listening at reading, hindi na DAW sila ganon ka strict... BUT for me, I didn't take the risk... kung capital dapat ang start ng word, capital ang gamit ko, pag small, small ang gamit ko... so my tip is kung alam mo ang tamang capitalization ng words... then do it... why take the risk... opinion ko lang naman po...
lapis ang gamit sa IELTS exam, nakasulat naman yun nung magbayad ka, may binigay sila kung ano ang dapat mong dalhin, 3 mongol pencils all number 2.
kabit kabit or printed doesn't matter as long as its readable... ang content po ang mahalaga hindi po ang handwriting...
hope it helps... goodluck!!!
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Thanks ayan mas malinaw na. Habang binabasa mo itong thread, mas nakakawala ng kaba. Haha.
Occupation: ICT Software Engineer (ANZSCO 261313)
Dec 13 2011 - ACS: Suitable (AQF Diploma)
Feb 03 2012 - IELTS #1 Failed (W-6.5)
Mar 02 2012 - IELTS #2 Passed
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Talaga, yun lang ni-required sa inyo dalhin dyan sa Pinas? Kasi nung nag-paregister ako for IELTS dito sa Jakarta, may kasamang pen sa mga pinadadala on the test date, so nalito tuloy ako kung saan gagamitin yung pen then I asked nga yung coach namin, sabi nya nga pen for writing. Saka bakit sa mga sample writing done by examinees sa mga review materials, may mga bura bura sila na for sure pen ang gamit kasi kung pencil e'di sana malinis yung essay.
Just wondering about it....
:-?
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