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  • jWalkerjWalker Hong Kong
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    plan ko po mag apply din sa AUS as immigrant (Nominated Occupation: Developer /Programmer), tanong ko lang po kung ano dapat unahin sa mga requirements? la pa ako na u-umpisahan... kaya pa po kaya makapag lodge before July 2012?.
  • tootzkietootzkie Sydney
    Posts: 200Member
    Joined: Jan 15, 2011
    edited February 2012
    plan ko po mag apply din sa AUS as immigrant (Nominated Occupation: Developer /Programmer), tanong ko lang po kung ano dapat unahin sa mga requirements? la pa ako na u-umpisahan... kaya pa po kaya makapag lodge before July 2012?.
    Kung hahabulin mo ang before July 20, 2012, start gathering all your documents now for ACS skills assessment, then once na naipasa mo na yun, mag-review ka for IELTS, and make sure bago lumabas ang skills assessment result, pasado ka na sa IELTS. Apply ka kaagad ng state sponsorship or if sufficient ang points mo, mag-lodge ka na kaagad ng visa 175. Siguradong bibilis ang visa processing ng 175 kasi magbabago na ang processing priority.

  • LokiJrLokiJr Quezon City
    Posts: 2,616Member, Moderator
    Joined: Jan 13, 2011
    @jWalker, follow what sir tootzkie said with emphasis on the "rush" part hehe...May mga screening process kasi na matagal bago makuha ang results and then there's IELTS where you might be aiming for a certain score.

    ~4 months is still doable...schedule will be tight, but doable :)
  • jWalkerjWalker Hong Kong
    Posts: 3Member
    Joined: Feb 24, 2012
    @tootzkie-okey kaya na dumaan na lang ako sa agency o kaya pa naman na mag walk in na lang? Nga pala, based doon sa initial assesstment sa akin ng agency, pasok naman ako sa 176 base sa 65 points. Sa 65 points na yun, bale kelangan ko maka bond 7 (10 pts) and mag state sponsorship (adelaide yun sinasuggest nila) . Tanong ko lang po, kung makakuha ako ng bond 8(15 pts atah), meaning pasok na sa 65 points, di ko na ba kelangan ng state sponsorship? Ngayon ko lang naisip itanong, kaya ni post ko na rin po dito.
  • LokiJrLokiJr Quezon City
    Posts: 2,616Member, Moderator
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    ^ I checked the Adelaide website and to get a State Sponsorship from them, you need to get at least all 7 or above in IELTS so kailangan galingan niyo po :)

    If you get all IELTS 8 or above, that will net you 20 points hence, yes, you do not need state sponsorship and you can apply for the 175 visa, which you can do on your own :)
  • Birhen_ng_GuadalupeBirhen_ng_Guadalupe Sydney
    Posts: 123Member
    Joined: Feb 27, 2012
    May isa pa palang balakid. Sa July magpapalit na naman ang SOL, at kahit naglodge before July pero yung nominated profession ay nawala sa new SOL, magiging category 5 yung dapat na category 4 huhuhu

    Ginebra San Miguel 175

    August 2011 - ACS
    January 2012 - IELTS
    February 2012 - Lodged 175
    May 2012 - CO Allocation
    June 2012 - Meds, PCC Submission
    December 2012 - Visa Approved

  • KTPKTP Singapore
    Posts: 243Member
    Joined: Jan 10, 2012
    @Birhen_ng_Guadalupe - ganun ba un? katakot naman un.... :(

    “We can make our own plans, but the Lord gives the right answer. – Proverbs 16:1”
    Occupation: 261111 (ICT Business Analyst)
    Apr 29, 2012 - Lodged 175 Online Application
    June 4, 2012 - CO Allocation. CO requested Medical and Police Clearance
    June 30, 2012 - Medical finalized
    July 05, 2012 - VISA GRANT!!!!
    IED: June 13, 2013
    Thank you so much Lord!!!!

  • Birhen_ng_GuadalupeBirhen_ng_Guadalupe Sydney
    Posts: 123Member
    Joined: Feb 27, 2012
    Systems Analyst pa naman yung ni lodge ko, eh I doubt na magka-CO ako before July. Kasama sya flagged occupations for removal. Though naflagged na siya dati pa pero hindi natanggal sa July 2011, sana hindi muna matanggal this year.

    Ginebra San Miguel 175

    August 2011 - ACS
    January 2012 - IELTS
    February 2012 - Lodged 175
    May 2012 - CO Allocation
    June 2012 - Meds, PCC Submission
    December 2012 - Visa Approved

  • KTPKTP Singapore
    Posts: 243Member
    Joined: Jan 10, 2012
    @Birhen_ng_Guadalupe - ganun po ba un? sa pagkakaintindi ko, basta makapagpass ka before Jul 2012, old process ung applicable... so kahit na mawala sa NEW SOL un nominated mo, dapat OK pa den sha di ba?

    “We can make our own plans, but the Lord gives the right answer. – Proverbs 16:1”
    Occupation: 261111 (ICT Business Analyst)
    Apr 29, 2012 - Lodged 175 Online Application
    June 4, 2012 - CO Allocation. CO requested Medical and Police Clearance
    June 30, 2012 - Medical finalized
    July 05, 2012 - VISA GRANT!!!!
    IED: June 13, 2013
    Thank you so much Lord!!!!

  • Birhen_ng_GuadalupeBirhen_ng_Guadalupe Sydney
    Posts: 123Member
    Joined: Feb 27, 2012
    @KTP yes applicable pa din yung old process pero yung Priority ang mababago, yun nga lang taon ang bibilangin bago ma-approve yung visa unlike yung iba na less than a year lang. For example, yung mga naging priority 5 nung 2007-2008 ngayon pa lang sinisimulan yung processing sa kanila.

    Iba po yung case nung mga hindi talaga nag apply before July 2012 kasi new process na sila so kailangan maka receive sila ng invitation from DIAC before lodging an application (parang sa New Zealand)

    Ginebra San Miguel 175

    August 2011 - ACS
    January 2012 - IELTS
    February 2012 - Lodged 175
    May 2012 - CO Allocation
    June 2012 - Meds, PCC Submission
    December 2012 - Visa Approved

  • mimaahkmimaahk Singapore
    Posts: 157Member
    Joined: Jun 27, 2011
    Systems Analyst pa naman yung ni lodge ko, eh I doubt na magka-CO ako before July. Kasama sya flagged occupations for removal. Though naflagged na siya dati pa pero hindi natanggal sa July 2011, sana hindi muna matanggal this year.
    So malaki kaya ang chance na mawala ang Systems Analyst sa SOL on July 2012? As in lahat ng ICT ba naka-flagged na matanggal?... pede po pa-share ng link kung saang article nyo nabasa? thanks!
  • LokiJrLokiJr Quezon City
    Posts: 2,616Member, Moderator
    Joined: Jan 13, 2011
    @Birhen_ng_Guadalupe, if you submit your application before July 1, it will be accepted even if the SOL changes after July...may transition period po silang sinusunod kaya hindi naman basta basta sila nagpapalit ng guidelines.

  • JClemJClem Melbourne
    Posts: 528Member
    Joined: Jan 08, 2011
    edited February 2012
    Here is the list of flagged occupations: http://www.skillsaustralia.gov.au/labour-market-information/skilled-occupation-list/flagged-occupations/flagged-occupations.html

    The following are so far speculations only. There's no official statement which says that:

    1. These flagged occupations will be removed in SOL starting July 1, 2012. It just says it "may" be removed in the future years, no specific date. For flagged ICT occupations, it is so unlikely that this will be removed on July 1. The reason, you can find it here: http://www.skillsaustralia.gov.au/labour-market-information/skilled-occupation-list/submissions-from-industry-stakeholders/documents/sub-ACDICT.pdf. If you notice dun sa list, yung mga flagged occupations na to is 2010 pa pero hindi naman tinangal nitong 2011.

    2. If your occupation is removed in SOL even if you lodged before July 1, 2012, your application will be moved to a lower priority. That again is another speculation. DIAC says, if you lodged a visa application prior to 1 July 2012, it will be processed according to the "priority processing direction in effect at the time your visa application" is processed. Processing starts once you lodged your application.

    Don't worry too much guys or confuse yourselves unnecessarily. :) Pero if you really want to make sure na hindi kayo maapektuhan whatever changes take place on July 1, 2012, better get moving as early as now. :)

    Nominated Occupation: Software Engineer (261313) - Husband is the primary applicant.

    10.21.2012 - Arrived in Melbourne. This is the day that the Lord has made. :)
    03.26.2012 - Visa granted. God is good, all the time! All the time, God is good! :)
    03.23.2012 - PCC submitted and medicals finalized
    03.02.2012 - Application being processed further / CO assigned
    06.26.2011 - Lodged Visa 175 application

  • LokiJrLokiJr Quezon City
    Posts: 2,616Member, Moderator
    Joined: Jan 13, 2011
    Thank you for the link @JClem...very useful...I'll post something related to this on another thread if you don't mind hehe...

    Sa mga nagbabalak po magpasa ng application...more or less may 5 months pa kayo bago mag July...at ang matagal maproseso ay yung (1) Skills Assessment; (2) IELTS -kasi puwedeng kailanganin magretake; (3) State Sponsorship -if applicable....

    Tantsahin niyo na lang po kung aabot kayo sa deadline...if not, baka mas mainam po kung hintayin yung magiging pagbabago sa immigration guidelines...mga May siguro lalabas na yan :)
  • JClemJClem Melbourne
    Posts: 528Member
    Joined: Jan 08, 2011
    No problem, @LokiJr! :)

    Nominated Occupation: Software Engineer (261313) - Husband is the primary applicant.

    10.21.2012 - Arrived in Melbourne. This is the day that the Lord has made. :)
    03.26.2012 - Visa granted. God is good, all the time! All the time, God is good! :)
    03.23.2012 - PCC submitted and medicals finalized
    03.02.2012 - Application being processed further / CO assigned
    06.26.2011 - Lodged Visa 175 application

  • cinnamon20cinnamon20 Sydney
    Posts: 243Member
    Joined: Oct 05, 2011
    Here is the list of flagged occupations: http://www.skillsaustralia.gov.au/labour-market-information/skilled-occupation-list/flagged-occupations/flagged-occupations.html

    The following are so far speculations only. There's no official statement which says that:

    1. These flagged occupations will be removed in SOL starting July 1, 2012. It just says it "may" be removed in the future years, no specific date. For flagged ICT occupations, it is so unlikely that this will be removed on July 1. The reason, you can find it here: http://www.skillsaustralia.gov.au/labour-market-information/skilled-occupation-list/submissions-from-industry-stakeholders/documents/sub-ACDICT.pdf. If you notice dun sa list, yung mga flagged occupations na to is 2010 pa pero hindi naman tinangal nitong 2011.

    2. If your occupation is removed in SOL even if you lodged before July 1, 2012, your application will be moved to a lower priority. That again is another speculation. DIAC says, if you lodged a visa application prior to 1 July 2012, it will be processed according to the "priority processing direction in effect at the time your visa application" is processed. Processing starts once you lodged your application.

    Don't worry too much guys or confuse yourselves unnecessarily. :) Pero if you really want to make sure na hindi kayo maapektuhan whatever changes take place on July 1, 2012, better get moving as early as now. :)

    @JClem: AMEN.. Ang galing apir pak. :)

    Nominated Occupation: ICT BA

    Assessment: July 2014
    EOI created: Feb 2015 applied SS to NSW but failed (waited for year pero ayaw pa din)
    PTE Test: Took July 2015 failed
    Retake PTE Dec 2015: Passed
    Got invited Feb 2016
    March 22: :Paid visa fee

  • KTPKTP Singapore
    Posts: 243Member
    Joined: Jan 10, 2012
    Here is the list of flagged occupations: http://www.skillsaustralia.gov.au/labour-market-information/skilled-occupation-list/flagged-occupations/flagged-occupations.html

    The following are so far speculations only. There's no official statement which says that:

    1. These flagged occupations will be removed in SOL starting July 1, 2012. It just says it "may" be removed in the future years, no specific date. For flagged ICT occupations, it is so unlikely that this will be removed on July 1. The reason, you can find it here: http://www.skillsaustralia.gov.au/labour-market-information/skilled-occupation-list/submissions-from-industry-stakeholders/documents/sub-ACDICT.pdf. If you notice dun sa list, yung mga flagged occupations na to is 2010 pa pero hindi naman tinangal nitong 2011.

    2. If your occupation is removed in SOL even if you lodged before July 1, 2012, your application will be moved to a lower priority. That again is another speculation. DIAC says, if you lodged a visa application prior to 1 July 2012, it will be processed according to the "priority processing direction in effect at the time your visa application" is processed. Processing starts once you lodged your application.

    Don't worry too much guys or confuse yourselves unnecessarily. :) Pero if you really want to make sure na hindi kayo maapektuhan whatever changes take place on July 1, 2012, better get moving as early as now. :)

    at least nawala kaba ko kahit pano... :) Kelangan na talaga makapagsubmit

    “We can make our own plans, but the Lord gives the right answer. – Proverbs 16:1”
    Occupation: 261111 (ICT Business Analyst)
    Apr 29, 2012 - Lodged 175 Online Application
    June 4, 2012 - CO Allocation. CO requested Medical and Police Clearance
    June 30, 2012 - Medical finalized
    July 05, 2012 - VISA GRANT!!!!
    IED: June 13, 2013
    Thank you so much Lord!!!!

  • stolich18stolich18 Sydney
    Posts: 993Member
    Joined: Feb 15, 2012
    Ako rin ang intindi ko, as long as makapag-lodge prior to Jul 2012, old process pa rin ang applicable...

    261313 (Software Engineer)

    Feb.15.2012 - started working on ACS requirements
    Mar.02.2012 - submitted online ACS application and sent documents to ACS via Fedex
    Mar.05.2012 - ACS acknowledged actual documents
    Mar.21.2012 - ACS finalised assessment: Suitable
    Mar.31.2012 - IELTS exam with BC
    Apr.13.2012 - IELTS Results (L:8.5 R:7 W: 7 S: 8 OB: 7.5) Thank you LORD!
    Apr.14.2012 - Lodged 175 Online Application
    Apr.20.2012 - Completed Online Attachments
    May.24.2012 - "Application being processed further"
    May.29.2012 - CO Assigned :-)
    Jun.07.2012 - Uploaded NBI Clearance
    Jun.13.2012 - Medical/Health Requirements Finalised
    Jun.14.2012 - VISA GRANT! Thank you, LORD! :-)
    Jun.07.2013 - Initial Entry Date Deadline
    Apr.28.2013 - Initial Entry (Sydney)
    Jun.28.2013 - Verbal Job Offer (Melbourne)
    Jul.08.2013 - First day of Work and first day of child care for my son (Melbourne)
    Aug.21.2013 - First day of Work in Sydney

    "Great is the LORD and most worthy of praise; his greatness no one can fathom." Psalm 145:3

  • heyits7me_magsheyits7me_mags Imus City
    Posts: 599Member
    Joined: Jan 13, 2011
    edited March 2012
    Systems Analyst pa naman yung ni lodge ko, eh I doubt na magka-CO ako before July. Kasama sya flagged occupations for removal. Though naflagged na siya dati pa pero hindi natanggal sa July 2011, sana hindi muna matanggal this year.
    Sir/madam, saan ko ba makikita ang link listing ng for flag na job for next Aus fiscal year?..ah ok nakita ko na po up lang pala.

    05/17/11 - ACS favorable result released for my husband's skills assessment nominated job-261311 Analyst Programmer.
    12/10/11 - Hubby IELTS first take at BC result L & R-5.5, W & S-6.0 OBS=6.0 retake!!!
    12/30/11- Hubby registered at 9.0 Niners.
    03/15/14 - Hubby's comeback at 9.0 Niners preparing for IELTS test. Second attempt for Australian visa.
    05/12/14 - Complete uploading of ACS skills assessment required documents and payment made thru direct deposit.
    05/12/14 - ACS assessment application received.
    07/02/14 - ACS skills assessment result suitable ANZCO code 262113 Systems Administrator as recommended by CO for hubby's job description rather than ANZCO 261311 Analyst Programmer the first ACS ANZCO result suitable released in 2011. I conclude ACS reclassifies ICT Occupations.
    - Work exp. 12yrs. less 6yrs deduction by ACS.
    - Educ. Qualification assessed as AQF Associate Degree major in computing for a 4yr. course BS. Computer Science in a section 2 school.

  • LokiJrLokiJr Quezon City
    Posts: 2,616Member, Moderator
    Joined: Jan 13, 2011
    Just to add po, while there are occupations that may be removed in the future, there are other occupations as well that will be open for immigrants after previously being removed from the list.

    So it helps to read the respective state sites for updates. :)
  • k_mavsk_mavs Melbourne
    Posts: 712Member
    Joined: May 30, 2011
    You would really not now kung kelan mawawala yung occupation om sa SOL. Kaya dapat talaga na samantalahin yung application mo habang nadun pa siya sa SOL.

    “We can make our own plans, but the LORD gives the right answer.”

  • k_mavsk_mavs Melbourne
    Posts: 712Member
    Joined: May 30, 2011
    edited March 2012
    Sorry double post.

    “We can make our own plans, but the LORD gives the right answer.”

  • heyits7me_magsheyits7me_mags Imus City
    Posts: 599Member
    Joined: Jan 13, 2011
    Post ko lang po dito, this is in connection with skill select implemention on July 1 regarding Permanent Employer-Sponsored Visa(ENS and RSMS) from facebook page of DIAC.

    .immi.gov.au/skilled/skilled-workers/permanent-employer-sponsored-visa-whats-new.htm

    05/17/11 - ACS favorable result released for my husband's skills assessment nominated job-261311 Analyst Programmer.
    12/10/11 - Hubby IELTS first take at BC result L & R-5.5, W & S-6.0 OBS=6.0 retake!!!
    12/30/11- Hubby registered at 9.0 Niners.
    03/15/14 - Hubby's comeback at 9.0 Niners preparing for IELTS test. Second attempt for Australian visa.
    05/12/14 - Complete uploading of ACS skills assessment required documents and payment made thru direct deposit.
    05/12/14 - ACS assessment application received.
    07/02/14 - ACS skills assessment result suitable ANZCO code 262113 Systems Administrator as recommended by CO for hubby's job description rather than ANZCO 261311 Analyst Programmer the first ACS ANZCO result suitable released in 2011. I conclude ACS reclassifies ICT Occupations.
    - Work exp. 12yrs. less 6yrs deduction by ACS.
    - Educ. Qualification assessed as AQF Associate Degree major in computing for a 4yr. course BS. Computer Science in a section 2 school.

  • heyits7me_magsheyits7me_mags Imus City
    Posts: 599Member
    Joined: Jan 13, 2011
    edited March 2012
    Try namin ang ENS baka dun kami umubra...=)
    Hindi ko pa masyadong napasadahan pero ang IELTS nya band of 6.0 baka eto way of the LORD para makapasok sa Oz.

    05/17/11 - ACS favorable result released for my husband's skills assessment nominated job-261311 Analyst Programmer.
    12/10/11 - Hubby IELTS first take at BC result L & R-5.5, W & S-6.0 OBS=6.0 retake!!!
    12/30/11- Hubby registered at 9.0 Niners.
    03/15/14 - Hubby's comeback at 9.0 Niners preparing for IELTS test. Second attempt for Australian visa.
    05/12/14 - Complete uploading of ACS skills assessment required documents and payment made thru direct deposit.
    05/12/14 - ACS assessment application received.
    07/02/14 - ACS skills assessment result suitable ANZCO code 262113 Systems Administrator as recommended by CO for hubby's job description rather than ANZCO 261311 Analyst Programmer the first ACS ANZCO result suitable released in 2011. I conclude ACS reclassifies ICT Occupations.
    - Work exp. 12yrs. less 6yrs deduction by ACS.
    - Educ. Qualification assessed as AQF Associate Degree major in computing for a 4yr. course BS. Computer Science in a section 2 school.

  • LokiJrLokiJr Quezon City
    Posts: 2,616Member, Moderator
    Joined: Jan 13, 2011
    ^ yeah...subukan niyo ang ENS, sa jobstreet ko nahanap employer ko e hehe
  • heyits7me_magsheyits7me_mags Imus City
    Posts: 599Member
    Joined: Jan 13, 2011
    @LokiJr, wow! sa jobstreet ka pala nakakuha employer...try nga namin rin sa jobstreet, meron din po sa workabroad.com.

    05/17/11 - ACS favorable result released for my husband's skills assessment nominated job-261311 Analyst Programmer.
    12/10/11 - Hubby IELTS first take at BC result L & R-5.5, W & S-6.0 OBS=6.0 retake!!!
    12/30/11- Hubby registered at 9.0 Niners.
    03/15/14 - Hubby's comeback at 9.0 Niners preparing for IELTS test. Second attempt for Australian visa.
    05/12/14 - Complete uploading of ACS skills assessment required documents and payment made thru direct deposit.
    05/12/14 - ACS assessment application received.
    07/02/14 - ACS skills assessment result suitable ANZCO code 262113 Systems Administrator as recommended by CO for hubby's job description rather than ANZCO 261311 Analyst Programmer the first ACS ANZCO result suitable released in 2011. I conclude ACS reclassifies ICT Occupations.
    - Work exp. 12yrs. less 6yrs deduction by ACS.
    - Educ. Qualification assessed as AQF Associate Degree major in computing for a 4yr. course BS. Computer Science in a section 2 school.

  • midagomidago Mandaluyong
    Posts: 11Member
    Joined: Mar 19, 2012
    Hi guys,

    Yung nakalagay sa criteria na work experience overseas, meaning outside australia right? I have more than 8 years of working experience here in the Philippines so yung points ko dun should be 15, right? :)
    just to clarify ... pls! :)
  • LokiJrLokiJr Quezon City
    Posts: 2,616Member, Moderator
    Joined: Jan 13, 2011
    @midago, it has to be 8 years work experience on the nominated occupation. Kunwari,nurse ang ninominate niyong occupation..8 years ang work experience pero 2 years lang kayo as nurse at 6 years as call center agent, yung 2 years lang ang maccredit sa inyo :)
  • heyits7me_magsheyits7me_mags Imus City
    Posts: 599Member
    Joined: Jan 13, 2011
    I would like to share this from Diac facebook page.

    The government announced as part of the Federal Budget on May 8 that Australia's migration program would increase by 5000 places from 185 000 to 190 000 places in 2012-13. The breakdown of places is as follows.

    SKILL STREAM
    • The skill stream has increased by 3400 places over 2011-12 to 129 250 places - a 2.7 per cent increase.
    • It is comprised of:
    o 47 250 employer-sponsored places (compared with 46 000 in 2011-12), of which up to 16 000 places are reserved for the Regional Sponsored Migration Scheme (RSMS)
    o 45 550 skilled independent places (compared with 44 350 in 2011-12)
    o 24 650 skilled state and territory-sponsored places (compared with 24 000 in 2011-12)
    o 4200 skilled Australian sponsored places (compared with 4100 in 2011-12)
    o 200 places for the distinguished talent category (unchanged) and
    o 7400 business skills places (compared to 7200 in 2011-12).

    FAMILY STREAM
    • The family stream has increased by 1585 places over 2011-12 (2.7 per cent) to 60 185 places.
    • It is comprised of:
    o 46 325 places in the partner category (compared with 45 400 in 2011-12)
    o 3850 places in the child category (compared with 3450 in 2011-12)
    o 1285 places in the other family category (compared with 1250 in 2011-12) and
    o 8725 parent category places, of which:
    ▪ 6575 are for contributory parent migrants (compared to 6500 in 2011-12)
    ▪ 2150 are for non-contributory parent migrants (compared to 2 000 in 2011-12).

    05/17/11 - ACS favorable result released for my husband's skills assessment nominated job-261311 Analyst Programmer.
    12/10/11 - Hubby IELTS first take at BC result L & R-5.5, W & S-6.0 OBS=6.0 retake!!!
    12/30/11- Hubby registered at 9.0 Niners.
    03/15/14 - Hubby's comeback at 9.0 Niners preparing for IELTS test. Second attempt for Australian visa.
    05/12/14 - Complete uploading of ACS skills assessment required documents and payment made thru direct deposit.
    05/12/14 - ACS assessment application received.
    07/02/14 - ACS skills assessment result suitable ANZCO code 262113 Systems Administrator as recommended by CO for hubby's job description rather than ANZCO 261311 Analyst Programmer the first ACS ANZCO result suitable released in 2011. I conclude ACS reclassifies ICT Occupations.
    - Work exp. 12yrs. less 6yrs deduction by ACS.
    - Educ. Qualification assessed as AQF Associate Degree major in computing for a 4yr. course BS. Computer Science in a section 2 school.

  • teenZseyerteenZseyer Mandaluyong
    Posts: 23Member
    Joined: Jun 13, 2012
    Reply to @heyits7me_mags: hi po,san ko po makikita ung DIAC booklet.thankyouuuu:)
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