Attitude adjustment for migrating filipinos

li_i_ren

Just to point out... My post is fairly for new migrants. People who just got out of pinas:)

It is ok to buy the things you love. The things you have always wanted IF you can afford it or kahit on credit basta it is your own credit card AND because you have worked for it.
My gripe is for people who just got here with no jobs, utang pa yung baon or sold everything back home but is spending like crazy just to post a few measly pics on fb! Also people who buy things just because someone else bought something. True story actually yan ng cousin-in-law ko, 5 sila nag abroad sabay.. They were all friends until when one buy somethings the other buys something similar but more expensive. The end story out of 5 friends.. 2 na lng sila nag-uusap ngayon.

It is ok to buy expensive things you have worked for and really want but not because your friend bought a 42 inch tv then you buy a 55 inch tv to replace a perfectly working 32 inch tv.


Yes by all means support your parents and even your siblings and nephews. But make sure also you keep some for yourself. Prioritized immediate families but know it is not your responsibility to send ALL relatives to school. True story din yan ng friend ko na nurse, she went home sa pinas after 3 years lahat ng kamag-anak was at her house asking for financial assistance. In less than a week, she shelled out 10k dollars!!!! She went back abroad almost broke!!!

It is ok to ask about marital status, income, residency, vital statistics/shoe size... Pero wait until you can say that person is your friend. I have been in several situation once in a bus stops i was speaking tagalog..this lady asked what i did, how much i earned if the guy i was with was my husband and asked if p.r. Kami ( he was my gay bff but doesn't look gay) then etc etc ... Then she turned to my friend and said, yung anak ko single yun. Maganda. ( beckons her daughter to come nearer). Buti na lang nag Go! Hahaha!!

I'm just trying to say.. The filipino culture is good and all pero when in rome do as the romans. Filter the bad but absorb the good. There are things that are quite personal to ask like how much one's weight...typical filipino greeting, oi tumataba ka yata?! ...hehehe.

But yeah, boundaries for people you have just met. Wait until the dust have settled before becoming to chummy...just because we are both filipinos doesn't make us best friends instantly.

Metaform

magkano ba mga sahod nyo? nihahaha joke lang pampalamig... baka mag-init mga tao dito e...
buti na lang malamig dito sa Sydney

relax guys... peace tayo lahat

For the record napansin kong hindi offensive sa mga taga-rito ang pag-usapan ang sweldo. Alam kong medyo taboo sa atin ang itanong or sabihin ang sahod, pero dito very open sila na sabihin yung current or yung seldo sa lilipatan nilang work. So baka medyo balat sibuyas lang tayo pagdating sa area na yun.

Nadine

magkano ba mga sahod nyo? nihahaha joke lang pampalamig... baka mag-init mga tao dito e...
buti na lang malamig dito sa Sydney

relax guys... peace tayo lahat

hahaha, winner icebreaker! Sige nga, umpisahan mo. Bistuhan na to !!

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lock_code2004

150


lol..

Nadine

Wala ka pala sa lolo ko eh! 200 ang lolo ko. :-\"

lock_code2004

@Nadine per month po yan.. haha..

#wishkolang

li_i_ren

@Metaform depende siguro who you talk to.. The brits/ozzies i work with parang taboo din sa kanila yan talking about salary. Also nasa contract namin not to disclose what pay level one is... Written talaga dun. Don't know why:)

sheep

ako pag may mgtanong ng sahod ko especially sa bus sinasabi ko na malit lang at pag tinanong status ko,,,,sabay lingon ako sa likod at sabihin na TNT ako...sabay sabi na pautang nman dyan..he..he kaya aalis kaagad baka daw madamay..he..he )

vhoythoy

Ako nman usually pag may nagtatanong ng sweldo kahit seryoso sya i dont find it offensive but rather very funny, usually, jokes lang din aabutin nya. Awkward naman din kasi un question, kaya madalas pag public yung nagtatanong dinadaan din sa joke ang pagttanong kaya wala din. Lol

icebreaker1928

@Nadine umpisahan mo doktora hehe...

250 ako... 250 pesos a day lol..

GoodLuckAU

But yeah, boundaries for people you have just met. Wait until the dust have settled before becoming to chummy...just because we are both filipinos doesn't make us best friends instantly.

Swak mo! May ganyang expectation na di ko maintindihan. Sa office expected kang makitropa sa mga pinoys. Tapos kapag nahahalata nilang di ka gaano nakikijoin - sabihan kang suplada, kesyo galit ka sa kanila etc etc. San nanggaling yon diba? :-/ Eh pwede namang di ko lang trip yung mga trip nila. Bat ko naman pipilitin sarili ko?

At eto pa malupet - meron pang expectation ng preferential treatment purely based on kasi kababayan mo. *facepalm* *jawdrop*

rolf021

Hi - just wanted to share my view as a new migrant.

1. Asking the salary..personally..para may idea on the salary for each role. I know data is on the net..but iba parin iyung knowing it directly from the person. Pero I agree..only when if I feel it is okay to ask the person and he will not feel offended.

2. Benefits from the government - we are on a very tight budget as a new migrant and we explore all possible means on how we can extend the budget. If we know that we can get certain child support ( for example) from the government then it will help our budget.

Ohmygag

Yes by all means support your parents and even your siblings and nephews. But make sure also you keep some for yourself. Prioritized immediate families but know it is not your responsibility to send ALL relatives to school. True story din yan ng friend ko na nurse, she went home sa pinas after 3 years lahat ng kamag-anak was at her house asking for financial assistance. In less than a week, she shelled out 10k dollars!!!! She went back abroad almost broke!!!

I think this is a common mentality of pinoys. i know my parents have sent a few of their nephews and nieces to school because they feel its their obligation since sila ang merong maginhawang buhay. They probably feel guilty if they dont help since in their own word "thats what a true catholic would do".

ethanjacob

I think this is a common mentality of pinoys. i know my parents have sent a few of their nephews and nieces to school because they feel its their obligation since sila ang merong maginhawang buhay.

Tomo, Yan ang ugaling pinoy! in some ways maganda, in some ways hindi. Maganda in the sense na nakakatulong sa pamilya. Kapag naabuso lang ay hindi na I know some people who obligate their family member/s na nasa abroad to remit money back home dahil kung hinde, kasalanan nya pag namatay sila sa gutom/sakit :-((

bananapeel

in the old forum long before i got my visa, me nagwarn na magingat sa kapwa pinoy kase sila yung mapang-uri. me bahay ka na ba, san ang work mo, anong car mo, magkano sweldo mo. sa Phil Consulate nga naginsinuate pa ang isang staff sa tanong niya sa akin kung Aussie ang husband ko. kala ata niya i got residency by marrying an Aussie. Sabi ko, single ako and i am here on skilled migrant visa. kainis diba, condescending eh. ayaw mo man magmalaki na skilled ka dumating dito, pero situation calls na sumagot ka para naman matauhan ang kausap mo. no offense meant for those who married an Aussie and got here, because love can truly exist between people of different races. in fact, i am happy that you found your match because i haven't but i'm happily single ;;)

KurikongSaTumbong

Natawa ako sa original post ah hahaha! Napaka komplikado pala ng buhay ng iba at masyadong concerned sa image.

Buti pa kami ni JCSantos masaya nang makapag hamburger paminsan minsan at makapasyal sa park.

mhej

Well, since we're talking Filipino Culture, I've never really understood the Pinoy culture of relatives being responsible for each other financially. Na kung sino ang may pera obligadong tulungan ang mga kamag anak na kapos palad.

My parents have always taught us that when we grow up, we are only responsible for ourselves and the children we bring to the world (not that I have to worry, I'm gay).

So my parents, they have never asked me to be financially responsible for them when they grow old, the same way that I have never asked them for pamana when they die.

Sabi ng dad ko, "Ang anak, hindi investment or negosyo na may returns kapag nagkatrabaho na or nagkapera.".

I give gifts to my parents out of love, never out of obligation. And it feels so much better that way. Genuine yung gratitude because you know they don't expect it from you.

Anyway, just my two cents.

KurikongSaTumbong

Tama! Iwasan na natin ang kultura na kung sino tamad at bobo eh rewarded tapos yung matalino at masipag ang penalised.

GoodLuckAU

@mhej super agree. i live by this. it's not easy when you have expecting parents/relatives. you have to draw the line. you draw the line, don't expect them to draw it for you. i know not all of us have @mhej's parents, but this cycle can end with you - don't pass it on to your children.

pero ang kultura, eh kultura. mahirap mabago. @_@

jwillboi

All i can say is BLAME it to OUR Philippine Government! Kong ok sana gobyerno natin eh di sana tayo Ganito, pupunta sa ibang bansa para mag balat ng buto. Dami kasing graft and corruption sa atin tapos namana na from generation to genaration kaya tayu Bitter sa isat isa.. LOL... #Duterte 2016 hopefully change is coming!

DreamerA

nabasa ko lang ang thread na ito at somehow medyo naka relate ako kasi bago plang ako dto sa AU, me nakilala ako pnoy dto and wala siya sinabe kung msasama about sa mga filipinos dto na nakasama nya and wala dn ako narinig na positive tlga. as BAGO , kelngan ko tlga ng at least lahat possitive lang saka ung mga tao na hndi mo nmn kilala at mga Filipino na me bad attitudes dto. actually, super nagulat nlang ako sa mga ugali ng pinoys dto pero hndi nmn LAHAT. pero ung iba na Pnoy dto ung mtatagal na mhrap daw tlga makpag kaibgan sa mga pilipino dto at lalo na ung tponng nakagawa sau ng PABOR tpong sisingilin ka tlga sa utang na loob. and ung naksama ko sa work na ibang lahi eh ganun daw tlga mga pnoy dto mdlas nag sisiraan at siguro daw gwa ng ENVY at Jelous. sana lang no sa lahat ng pnoy na mag mmigrate palang wag masydo matanong sa mga personal na bagay , bahay , sweldo , naipundar. at saka iwasn tlaga ung INGGIT sa kapwa pnoy kasi lahat tayo iba iba ng karanasan at iba iba din ang naging simula sa buhay. Magtulungan nlang kung me maittulong . All the best

Captain_A

nice and funny discussion.

sab16

Thanks for sharing this is going to be a big help for us when we get to Aus.

@Guwi27 , check the post 😊

lecia

Binabasa ko to mula start!! Hahahahaha daming aral! salamat!!! Nakkatuwa!

maguero

Tama na hindi lahat ng Pinoy na makikilala dito ay gustong tumulong. Meron dyan na alam na ngang bago ka lang dito tapos puro nega ikkwento. Matatakot ka tuloy at mapapaisip kung good move ba na lumipat dito. Pero isipin lang din na iba-iba tayo ng journey. Hindi naman dahil sobrang nahirapan sila magsimula dito ay siguradong ikaw din mahihirapan na. Learn what you can sa mga nega na kwento nila pero don't let anyone bring you down.

crankygrinch

Gusto ko tong post na to wahaha. I have the same sentiments. Hindi lang to applicable sa migrants, kahit dito pa lang sa pinas dami na ganyan

DreamerA

@maguero said:
Tama na hindi lahat ng Pinoy na makikilala dito ay gustong tumulong. Meron dyan na alam na ngang bago ka lang dito tapos puro nega ikkwento. Matatakot ka tuloy at mapapaisip kung good move ba na lumipat dito. Pero isipin lang din na iba-iba tayo ng journey. Hindi naman dahil sobrang nahirapan sila magsimula dito ay siguradong ikaw din mahihirapan na. Learn what you can sa mga nega na kwento nila pero don't let anyone bring you down.

super tama ka , iba iba talaga ng Journey, at depnede ndn tlga kung paano mag isip ang tao. Kaya sa lahat ng plano pumunta dto da AU wag kau masydo pang hinaan ng loob, naniniwala padin ako sa resulta ng dasal, HARD WORK at PATIENCE.
Hndi purket panget simula nla ganun dn ang mangyayari sayo. Mas mag tiwala ka sa sarili mong kakayahan kesa sa sinasabe ng iba na mas nauna lang sayo dto sa AU. me matutunan kdin sa mga nauna prro hndi sa lahat ng bagay. Mas mainam pdn sariling sikap sa lahat ng bagay 🙂. all the best!

sa aking experience mas mlala ang ugali ng Pinoy dto sa abroad kumpara sa Pinas 🙂 pro sabe nga nla HNDI NMAN DAW LAHAT. focus nlang ung sarili sa trabaho, pamilya at ke Lord . kung mgkaroon ng totoong kaibgan bonus nlang tlga un.

ambry

Nawala antok ko sa thread na to, maulan pa naman sa labas. Share din ako ng experience ko dito with Pinoys. Yung tutulongan ka pero may ineexpect pa lang kapalit kaso di sasabihin sayo before the tulong, tapos ma shoshock ka na lang na galit sayo (kasi di mo na gets). hahaha...I've lived in SG for 7 yrs before coming here so nasanay ako na prangka mga tao, if it's charity it's charity, if it's business say so. If we don't agree, then let's move on, no hard feelings.

About naman sa ugaling naiingit, ingat2 na lang kasi di lang sa pinoy to, kahit yung mga taga dito ganyan din. Mahilig sila sa chismis. hahaha. Just observe at wag na wag mainvolve sa politics sa workplace kasi it can cost you your job, on the spot pwede kang tanggalin.

Captain_A

@jwillboi said:
All i can say is BLAME it to OUR Philippine Government! Kong ok sana gobyerno natin eh di sana tayo Ganito, pupunta sa ibang bansa para mag balat ng buto. Dami kasing graft and corruption sa atin tapos namana na from generation to genaration kaya tayu Bitter sa isat isa.. LOL... #Duterte 2016 hopefully change is coming!

kamusta? has change come?
(non-partisan question only)

agentKams

@ambry said:
About naman sa ugaling naiingit, ingat2 na lang kasi di lang sa pinoy to, kahit yung mga taga dito ganyan din. Mahilig sila sa chismis. hahaha. Just observe at wag na wag mainvolve sa politics sa workplace kasi it can cost you your job, on the spot pwede kang tanggalin.

troot!!! oo malala ang pulitika ng mga taga-dito at beware ka ng mga pinagsasabihan dahil baka kamag-anak na pla niya iyon. partner ko, halos hilahin pababa nung mga nauungusan niya, ang lala pa mandin maging bitter mga iyan,harap harapan nila ipapamukha sayo pagiging ampalaya nila.