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Posts: 153Member
Joined: Jul 19, 2019
thank you sa reply sir.so ok lang 2 Eoi? actualy im planning to delete the other one, yun first na ginawa ko if mas preferred ng NSW na sila lang ang nasa loob ng EOI
Joined: Jul 22, 2020
same po tayo kailangan magtake pa ng PTE para added points for subclass 190
Occupation: Architectural Draftsperson
Offshore Applicant
Single
Points: 85
Subclass: 190
State: NSW
Invitation Date: 8 Dec 2022
Lodgment Date:13 Dec 2022
Joined: Aug 04, 2021
Thank you po for this information!
Curious lang din ako, how about dun sa deducted years of experience? VETASSESS kasi ang akin. Sayang kasi, ngayon ang points ko lang 70/75, hindi ko ma-claim yung +5 na 3-5 years of experience na bracket kasi nga nag-deduct sila ng 1 year. I'm months away pa para ma-claim tong 5 points, pero curious lang ako kung pwede? Mixed opinions kasi mga tao about this topic. Ewan di ko alam sino paniniwalaan haha!
Started my Australian visa journey: Jul 2021
2021
2022
2023
Posts: 187Member
Joined: Mar 15, 2019
Di ko sure sir. Sa AIMS kasi walang deduction.
234611 MEDICAL LABORATORY SCIENTIST
491 FS : 90 pts
Age: 30
Experience: 10
Degree: 15
English : 20
Sponsor: 15
Assessing Authority: AIMS
TIMELINE
25 June 2016 ----------- IELTS exam (L: 7.5 R: 8.5 W: 6.5 S: 6.5) 7.5 overall
25 February 2019 -----------Documents for First stage Assessment sent to AIMS through Philpost
4 March 2019 -----------Documents for First stage Assessment received by AIMS
3 May 2019 -----------First stage Assessment result received
5 September 2019 -----------Second Stage Assessment (Examination) in Riyadh
12 November 2019 -----------AIMS examination result received (Passed)
11 October 2020 -----------PTE exam (Superior R:90 S:90 L: 90 W:90) I can't believe this
12 October 2020 -----------EOI submitted (491, 190, 189)
14 November 2020 -----------EOI updated (+5 points due to additional experience)
29 October 2021 ------------EOI for visa 491 Family Sponsored invited. I was aiming for 189 but I can't let this pass. Its
now or never. Passport used for EOI expired.
6 December 2021 -----------Passport renewed
8 December 2021 -----------491 Visa lodged
5 January 2022 -----------Medicals
15 February 2022 ------------ VISA GRANTED! Family of 6 - Direct grant.
A long journey, but a longer journey ahead. Keep the faith!
Posts: 249Member
Joined: May 29, 2018
Lahat ng agents na nakausap ko, ang advise nila, iclaim lang kung ano yung inaassess ng assessing body nyo para di maquestion sa overclaiming ng points. mas mahirap kung maje-jeopardize yung application nyo dahil nagclaim kayo ng experience na hindi naman dapat. Ganyan din po kasi sa ACS, nagdededuct sila ng work experience. Mas mainam po magpaconsult kayo sa migration lawyer para maging firm yung decision nyo kung dapat ba iclaim![:) :)](https://pinoyau.info/resources/emoji/smile.png)
Master of Software Engineering
Jun 2018 Started AU Dreams
Aug 2018 Started inquiring about Student Visa pathway - AECC Global and KOKOS International
30-Aug-18 Got an offer with a full scholarship from Macquarie University Course: Master of Information Technology | Application Date: August 20, 2018
14-Sep-18 Got a conditional offer from Deakin University | Course: Grad Cert + Master IT | Application Date: August 20, 2018
10-Oct-18 1st PTE-A Exam
15-Oct-18 Got a full offer from Deakin University
20-Nov-18 Tuition Fee Payment
23-Nov-18 Received CoE from Deakin University
27-Nov-18 Insurance Payment (Medibank)
29-Nov-18 Medical at St Luke's BGC | Health Clearance Provided - No Actions Required
12-Dec-18 Student Visa lodgement
14-Dec-18 CO asked an additional de facto documents (Evidence of same home address)
19-Dec-18 Uploaded all documents to immi portal (Waiting time!!!)
02-Jan-19 Visa Grant!
Jun 2019 IT Grad Cert completed at Deakin Uni
Aug 2019 First Day in Uni Adelaide
Posts: 62Member
Joined: Jul 03, 2018
Hi,
Good day po, ask ko lang sana kung automatic magaupdate yung points sa EOI if nadagdagan yung number of years sa working experience? I was trying po na iupdate kase since yesterday nag 8 years na working experience ko kaso napansin ko wala pala part na need ienter yung number of years sa working experience, nagbbase lang yung summary ng points sa dates of employment. Kaso hindi po nadagdagan yung points even I can claim na for 15 points.
Thank you po sa makakasagot.![:) :)](https://pinoyau.info/resources/emoji/smile.png)
Posts: 755Member
Joined: Nov 15, 2021
Afaik, mag auto-compute siya as long as you left your current employment's end date BLANK.
Double check also the gaps between each employment record. Sa akin, nag auto-compute kasi. Thanks!
OCCUPATION : SOFTWARE ENGINEER (261313) ~~ DIY. Offshore.
Total Points ~~ NSW SC190: 90pts
Points Breakdown:
Age:25 | English:20 | Employment:15 | Education:15 | Single:10
Been to Australia a few times and I just wanted to settle there. "I belong here" ganon.
~~~~
10 2021 - Research about AU migration; read a lot of related articles; consulted with agent for initial assessment. Decided to DIY.
11 2021 - PTE (Proficient)
11 2021 - Suitable ACS Skills Assessment received (8+ years suitable, 5weeks 4days TAT)
~~~~
01 2022 - EOIs submitted (matumal and slight hiatus since na-busy sa ibang bagay)
~~~~
09 2023 - PTE retake (Superior 90 overall)
09 2023 - Updated EOIs to reflect +10pts on English Test
11 2023 - ACS Assessment expired T_T (but already prepared for re-assessment a few weeks before)
11 2023 - ACS deemed my skills unsuitable because of missing documents. Nilaban ko.
12 2023 - Suitable ACS Skills reassessment (8+ years) after 1month of review and pangungulit (no fee incurred, fault nila)
12 2023 - Some EOIs expired T_T
12 2023 - New EOIs submitted (NSW, VIC, ACT, and 189)
~~~~
02 2024 - Booked NAATI Exam (desperate to max out point for a chance of invite)
02 2024 - Received NSW 190 pre-invite!! ✩₊˚ (tears of joy, TYL! ). Cancelled NAATI test at 75% refund.
02 2024 - Final NSW ITA received after 1 business day ✩₊˚
02 2024 - Visa Lodgement
02 2024 - Medicals. Cleared after 1 business day @ SATA AMK
02 2024 - Singapore Police Clearance. Completed/claimed after 6 business days
_ _ 2024 - ✩₊˚.⋆☾⋆⁺₊✧** Visa Grant! **✩₊˚.⋆☾⋆⁺₊✧
Posts: 62Member
Joined: Jul 03, 2018
Thank you po for the info, what do you mean po sa gaps?:)
Posts: 755Member
Joined: Nov 15, 2021
@bpgamerslobby - say hindi naman continuous yung employment mo the entire 8 years (may pahinga even days lang), hindi kasama yun sa computation. Skillselect will send you an email that there have been changes in your EOI in case na auto-compute na ng system nila. May ganitong pop-up din, tapos updated na score:
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OCCUPATION : SOFTWARE ENGINEER (261313) ~~ DIY. Offshore.
Total Points ~~ NSW SC190: 90pts
Points Breakdown:
Age:25 | English:20 | Employment:15 | Education:15 | Single:10
Been to Australia a few times and I just wanted to settle there. "I belong here" ganon.
~~~~
10 2021 - Research about AU migration; read a lot of related articles; consulted with agent for initial assessment. Decided to DIY.
11 2021 - PTE (Proficient)
11 2021 - Suitable ACS Skills Assessment received (8+ years suitable, 5weeks 4days TAT)
~~~~
01 2022 - EOIs submitted (matumal and slight hiatus since na-busy sa ibang bagay)
~~~~
09 2023 - PTE retake (Superior 90 overall)
09 2023 - Updated EOIs to reflect +10pts on English Test
11 2023 - ACS Assessment expired T_T (but already prepared for re-assessment a few weeks before)
11 2023 - ACS deemed my skills unsuitable because of missing documents. Nilaban ko.
12 2023 - Suitable ACS Skills reassessment (8+ years) after 1month of review and pangungulit (no fee incurred, fault nila)
12 2023 - Some EOIs expired T_T
12 2023 - New EOIs submitted (NSW, VIC, ACT, and 189)
~~~~
02 2024 - Booked NAATI Exam (desperate to max out point for a chance of invite)
02 2024 - Received NSW 190 pre-invite!! ✩₊˚ (tears of joy, TYL! ). Cancelled NAATI test at 75% refund.
02 2024 - Final NSW ITA received after 1 business day ✩₊˚
02 2024 - Visa Lodgement
02 2024 - Medicals. Cleared after 1 business day @ SATA AMK
02 2024 - Singapore Police Clearance. Completed/claimed after 6 business days
_ _ 2024 - ✩₊˚.⋆☾⋆⁺₊✧** Visa Grant! **✩₊˚.⋆☾⋆⁺₊✧
Posts: 201Member
Joined: Jul 03, 2021
Guys, ask ko lang:
Immiaccounts asked to "Give details of all residential addresses for all applicants for the past 10 years since turning 16 years of age"
I don't understand which year it includes. 10 years back from today ( Jan 2022 up to Jan 2012) or from when I get to 16 years old plus 10 years (Aug 2006 to Aug 2016). I turned 16 August 2006.
ANZSCO 233211-CIVIL ENGINEER
Age: 30pts
English: 20pts
Qualification: 15pts
Overseas Experience: 15pts
CCL: 5pts
Partner-No Partner: 10pts
01-Nov-22 - GRANTED visa 190
21-Oct-22 - Responded to CO contact request
12-Oct-22 - CO contact
22-Feb-22 - Visa Application lodged
22-Feb-22 - NBI Clearance and UAE police clearance received
14-Jan-22 - Skillselect invitation received
11-Jan-22 - NSW nomination received
24-Dec-21 - EA Skills Re-assessment result received - SUCCESSFUL
15-Aug-20 - PTE Academic Exam result - SUPERIOR
17-Feb-20 - NAATI test result received - PASS
Posts: 201Member
Joined: Jul 03, 2021
Guys, tanong ko ulit.
I live in Dubai now. Immiaccount asks for Character References (CR)for both UAE and Philippines. My questions are:
Thanks in advance.
ANZSCO 233211-CIVIL ENGINEER
Age: 30pts
English: 20pts
Qualification: 15pts
Overseas Experience: 15pts
CCL: 5pts
Partner-No Partner: 10pts
01-Nov-22 - GRANTED visa 190
21-Oct-22 - Responded to CO contact request
12-Oct-22 - CO contact
22-Feb-22 - Visa Application lodged
22-Feb-22 - NBI Clearance and UAE police clearance received
14-Jan-22 - Skillselect invitation received
11-Jan-22 - NSW nomination received
24-Dec-21 - EA Skills Re-assessment result received - SUCCESSFUL
15-Aug-20 - PTE Academic Exam result - SUPERIOR
17-Feb-20 - NAATI test result received - PASS
Joined: May 19, 2021
Hello! Got invited for 491 SA this January 2022. Kaso seeing NSW invites and expected increase for 2022-2023 Migration, I am thinking of declining the invite and wait for 190 NSW. Do you think its worth the risk? Concern ko kasi yung job opportunity sa SA compared sa NSW. Kaso pag magfall through yun, sayang yung slot from SA and most probably di na nila ako iinvite ulit.
Industrial engineer
offshore
189- 90pts
190- 95pts
Hoping for your inputs!
Thank you!
Posts: 201Member
Joined: Jul 03, 2021
That's a high-risk-high-reward if you don't take it. You need more data to make that decision. How certain are you that you will get another invite before you lose more age points?
ANZSCO 233211-CIVIL ENGINEER
Age: 30pts
English: 20pts
Qualification: 15pts
Overseas Experience: 15pts
CCL: 5pts
Partner-No Partner: 10pts
01-Nov-22 - GRANTED visa 190
21-Oct-22 - Responded to CO contact request
12-Oct-22 - CO contact
22-Feb-22 - Visa Application lodged
22-Feb-22 - NBI Clearance and UAE police clearance received
14-Jan-22 - Skillselect invitation received
11-Jan-22 - NSW nomination received
24-Dec-21 - EA Skills Re-assessment result received - SUCCESSFUL
15-Aug-20 - PTE Academic Exam result - SUPERIOR
17-Feb-20 - NAATI test result received - PASS
Joined: May 19, 2021
Not really sure if I will get another invite... but I'll be losing 5 points on Oct 2023 due to age.
Joined: May 19, 2021
I'm just looking forward to the possible increase in migration numbers in the incoming FY and the opening of borders.
Posts: 201Member
Joined: Jul 03, 2021
Borders are open. Invitations are just limited because of limited planning levels for this year. I think you will get another invite after start of fiscal year in July.
ANZSCO 233211-CIVIL ENGINEER
Age: 30pts
English: 20pts
Qualification: 15pts
Overseas Experience: 15pts
CCL: 5pts
Partner-No Partner: 10pts
01-Nov-22 - GRANTED visa 190
21-Oct-22 - Responded to CO contact request
12-Oct-22 - CO contact
22-Feb-22 - Visa Application lodged
22-Feb-22 - NBI Clearance and UAE police clearance received
14-Jan-22 - Skillselect invitation received
11-Jan-22 - NSW nomination received
24-Dec-21 - EA Skills Re-assessment result received - SUCCESSFUL
15-Aug-20 - PTE Academic Exam result - SUPERIOR
17-Feb-20 - NAATI test result received - PASS
Posts: 1,204Member, Moderator
Joined: Aug 28, 2018
No. Please dont do that. U have been invited that a lot of people want to have. Please dont waste it, specially u will never know if you will be invited again.
232412- Illustrator | Total: 65
2018 Oct- Lodged VETASSESS application
2018 Dec- PTE Test
2018 Dec- Proficient
2019 Mar- VETASSESS Positive Outcome
2019 Jun- Created EOI for NSW
2019 Jun- Applied SA 489
2019 Aug- Invitation to apply from SA 489
2019 Aug- Lodge Visa Application SA 489
2019 Sep 09- Medical
2019 Sep 11- Medical deferred
2019 Oct 19- Start TB treatment
2019 Oct 21- Pre-invite from NSW 190
2019 Oct 26- Invitation to apply from NSW Visa 190
2019 Oct 24- Pre-invite from ACT 190 ( Didn't pursue it because lack of job opportunities)
2019 Nov 10- Lodge NSW Visa 190
2020 Jan - Withdrawn Visa 489
2020 Apr 16- Finished TB treatment ( yey! )
2020 Jun 08-Sputum results negative
2020 Jun 12-Panel physician sent emedical ( Awaiting for clearance )
2020 Jun 23 -Medical Health cleared ( Sa wakas Praise God! )
2020 Jun 23 -Frontload Form 815_Health undertaking
2022 Aug 22 - CO Contacted me for new Medicals, PCC and Form 80
2022 Sept 7 - Uploaded requested documents.
2022 Nov 25- Golden Grant!
Joined: May 19, 2021
Do you think it will be better if I don't accept the invite from SA due to lack of job opportunities?
Joined: May 19, 2021
Yes I understand. Kaso I'm reading forums now and sabi onti lang daw job opportunities in SA for my line of work kaya nagdadalawang isip ako i-push siya.
Posts: 1,204Member, Moderator
Joined: Aug 28, 2018
I see. Its up to you po. But if you were to ask me, pag dating ko na jan sa Aus saka ko iisipin ung paghahanap ng work. Mahalaga makapunta muna sa Australia. Kung pre covid days i would say push mo ung NSW. But these days, hindi nila masyado pinapansin ang offshore. So u are reall blessed to have this invite.
232412- Illustrator | Total: 65
2018 Oct- Lodged VETASSESS application
2018 Dec- PTE Test
2018 Dec- Proficient
2019 Mar- VETASSESS Positive Outcome
2019 Jun- Created EOI for NSW
2019 Jun- Applied SA 489
2019 Aug- Invitation to apply from SA 489
2019 Aug- Lodge Visa Application SA 489
2019 Sep 09- Medical
2019 Sep 11- Medical deferred
2019 Oct 19- Start TB treatment
2019 Oct 21- Pre-invite from NSW 190
2019 Oct 26- Invitation to apply from NSW Visa 190
2019 Oct 24- Pre-invite from ACT 190 ( Didn't pursue it because lack of job opportunities)
2019 Nov 10- Lodge NSW Visa 190
2020 Jan - Withdrawn Visa 489
2020 Apr 16- Finished TB treatment ( yey! )
2020 Jun 08-Sputum results negative
2020 Jun 12-Panel physician sent emedical ( Awaiting for clearance )
2020 Jun 23 -Medical Health cleared ( Sa wakas Praise God! )
2020 Jun 23 -Frontload Form 815_Health undertaking
2022 Aug 22 - CO Contacted me for new Medicals, PCC and Form 80
2022 Sept 7 - Uploaded requested documents.
2022 Nov 25- Golden Grant!
Joined: May 19, 2021
Yes. Really grateful din for the invite. Question lang, if I lodged my application, pwede pa ba mawithdraw yun and refund yung bayad if ever biglang mainvite ng NSW 190?
Posts: 1,204Member, Moderator
Joined: Aug 28, 2018
Pwedeng mawithdraw. But u cannot refund.
232412- Illustrator | Total: 65
2018 Oct- Lodged VETASSESS application
2018 Dec- PTE Test
2018 Dec- Proficient
2019 Mar- VETASSESS Positive Outcome
2019 Jun- Created EOI for NSW
2019 Jun- Applied SA 489
2019 Aug- Invitation to apply from SA 489
2019 Aug- Lodge Visa Application SA 489
2019 Sep 09- Medical
2019 Sep 11- Medical deferred
2019 Oct 19- Start TB treatment
2019 Oct 21- Pre-invite from NSW 190
2019 Oct 26- Invitation to apply from NSW Visa 190
2019 Oct 24- Pre-invite from ACT 190 ( Didn't pursue it because lack of job opportunities)
2019 Nov 10- Lodge NSW Visa 190
2020 Jan - Withdrawn Visa 489
2020 Apr 16- Finished TB treatment ( yey! )
2020 Jun 08-Sputum results negative
2020 Jun 12-Panel physician sent emedical ( Awaiting for clearance )
2020 Jun 23 -Medical Health cleared ( Sa wakas Praise God! )
2020 Jun 23 -Frontload Form 815_Health undertaking
2022 Aug 22 - CO Contacted me for new Medicals, PCC and Form 80
2022 Sept 7 - Uploaded requested documents.
2022 Nov 25- Golden Grant!
Posts: 1,204Member, Moderator
Joined: Aug 28, 2018
Pwedeng mawithdraw hanggat di pa nagagrant.
232412- Illustrator | Total: 65
2018 Oct- Lodged VETASSESS application
2018 Dec- PTE Test
2018 Dec- Proficient
2019 Mar- VETASSESS Positive Outcome
2019 Jun- Created EOI for NSW
2019 Jun- Applied SA 489
2019 Aug- Invitation to apply from SA 489
2019 Aug- Lodge Visa Application SA 489
2019 Sep 09- Medical
2019 Sep 11- Medical deferred
2019 Oct 19- Start TB treatment
2019 Oct 21- Pre-invite from NSW 190
2019 Oct 26- Invitation to apply from NSW Visa 190
2019 Oct 24- Pre-invite from ACT 190 ( Didn't pursue it because lack of job opportunities)
2019 Nov 10- Lodge NSW Visa 190
2020 Jan - Withdrawn Visa 489
2020 Apr 16- Finished TB treatment ( yey! )
2020 Jun 08-Sputum results negative
2020 Jun 12-Panel physician sent emedical ( Awaiting for clearance )
2020 Jun 23 -Medical Health cleared ( Sa wakas Praise God! )
2020 Jun 23 -Frontload Form 815_Health undertaking
2022 Aug 22 - CO Contacted me for new Medicals, PCC and Form 80
2022 Sept 7 - Uploaded requested documents.
2022 Nov 25- Golden Grant!
Joined: May 19, 2021
Yun lang. Ang laki din kasi nung ilalabas for the visa. Sakit sa puso na doble doble bayad. haha. Slowly na kasi nagoopen ang mga states and may nakikita ako nainvite na offshore last Jan round kaya bigla naging high hope ako for NSW 190. especially sa mga news ng possible increase in migration cap.
Posts: 1,204Member, Moderator
Joined: Aug 28, 2018
True. It happened to us. We got invited for visa 489 fron SA around August. Then nainvite naman kami sa 190 NSW around October. So we paid twice. This happened around 2019. Hehe up untill now. Received parim status namin. Still waiting for the CO na mapansim application namin. Magastos tlaga kaso twice kaming nagbayad.
232412- Illustrator | Total: 65
2018 Oct- Lodged VETASSESS application
2018 Dec- PTE Test
2018 Dec- Proficient
2019 Mar- VETASSESS Positive Outcome
2019 Jun- Created EOI for NSW
2019 Jun- Applied SA 489
2019 Aug- Invitation to apply from SA 489
2019 Aug- Lodge Visa Application SA 489
2019 Sep 09- Medical
2019 Sep 11- Medical deferred
2019 Oct 19- Start TB treatment
2019 Oct 21- Pre-invite from NSW 190
2019 Oct 26- Invitation to apply from NSW Visa 190
2019 Oct 24- Pre-invite from ACT 190 ( Didn't pursue it because lack of job opportunities)
2019 Nov 10- Lodge NSW Visa 190
2020 Jan - Withdrawn Visa 489
2020 Apr 16- Finished TB treatment ( yey! )
2020 Jun 08-Sputum results negative
2020 Jun 12-Panel physician sent emedical ( Awaiting for clearance )
2020 Jun 23 -Medical Health cleared ( Sa wakas Praise God! )
2020 Jun 23 -Frontload Form 815_Health undertaking
2022 Aug 22 - CO Contacted me for new Medicals, PCC and Form 80
2022 Sept 7 - Uploaded requested documents.
2022 Nov 25- Golden Grant!
Joined: May 19, 2021
Ouch ang sakit huhu. If ever ganyan din ako lol. Kaya nga I'm thinking twice about the 491 visa since straight PR na ang 190 and more job opportunities. If last year ako nainvite for 491 wala nang ganitong dilemma. Lodge agad.
Posts: 275Member
Joined: Jan 11, 2018
@petite it will cause u a lot of money, but atleast may secured invite kana. Yung money kikitain pa yan, pero if pinalagpas mo yung invite ni SA then wala palang invite from NSW. Hindi mo na mabibili yung oras at pag kakataon na nwala. Hehe
God is good all the time!
Age: 25 | English : 20 | Work Experience : 15 | Qualifications: 15 | CCL: 5 | Partner: 5
Production or Plant Engineer (233513)
22/03/2019 - Positive Skill Assessment Outcome
31/12/2019 - PTE Superior
15/07/2020 - NAATI CCL Passed
12/09/2020 - Partner English Passed
25/11/2021 - Pre-Invite - SA
20/12/2021 - ITA Received
16/02/2022 - Visa Lodged
05/09/2022 - CO Contact - Form 815
03/11/2022 - CO Contact - New Medical Exam request/Form 815
12/12/2022 - Visa Grant - THANK YOU, LORD!
Posts: 255Member
Joined: Feb 17, 2020
Hi @petite, sobrang nakaka-tempt talaga to wait for PR opportunities lalo na recently na may nakakatanggap ng 190 invites. But sabi mo nga, sayang 'yung slot sa SA kung di ka ma-invite sa NSW. Going to AU is one thing, getting a job is another thing.
Anyway, kailangan mo talagang pag-isipang maigi 'yan. Life-changing decision it is! Andaming bagay na kailangang i-factor in. Good luck sa magiging decision mo!
Cheers!
Joined: May 19, 2021
Naisip ko nga din gawin same. Tanggapin si SA then if bigla may invite from NSW 190 withdraw nalang SA and go for 190. Mukha namang matagal ang grants ngayon eh. Tama nga na kikitain ulit yung pera pero yung opportunity baka di na dumating ulit. Nagtry lang ako sa SA talaga never expecting anything tapos nauna pa maginvite. hahaha dapat pala last resort na to
Joined: May 19, 2021
Agree. Kung wala lang pandemic hihintayin ko na yung 190/189 eh. kaso sobrang unpredictable ng Immigration ngayon. Pero mukhang positive naman so far ang news so really looking forward sa next FY. Plan ko is tanggapin yung SA then withdraw nalang if may 190 na dumating before grant. Mukhang matagal naman bago sila magbigay ng grant.