What are the OPTIONS for nurses

rejai_11

@bytubytu anong pinaka early na nagrant na registration so far sa kabatch mo? Or usually ba 4weeks talaga?!

valiantboy

good day mga kabayan kong Nars,

sino po dito na dating nars sa saudi tapos ng-apply sa aphra? ano po experience nyo sa application? okay po ba sa aphra ang nursing technician yung license na issued ng saudi council?
maraming salamat. mabuhay ang mga Nars!

As far as AHPRA is concerned, mas concerned sila sa education more than the license kasi education yung kailangan para makapractice dito. Disregard mo ung criteria 2 and 3, http://www.nursingmidwiferyboard.gov.au/Registration-and-Endorsement/International/Meeting-the-registration-requirements.aspx

Although any other qualifications and experience, will be counted towards your outcome. hindi ko lang alam kung significant. So lahat ng iba't ibang registration mo kailangang ideclare. http://www.nursingmidwiferyboard.gov.au/Registration-and-Endorsement/International/Assessing-your-qualifications.aspx

http://www.nursingmidwiferyboard.gov.au/Registration-and-Endorsement/International.aspx

bytubytu

@rejai_11 4 weeks.

rejai_11

@bytubytu I see. All the best sa work. When ka start?

zanbi_06

Hi! I'm asking for a friend since wala sya acct dito. She's a Registered Nurse in Singapore for 3 years na with on going contract sa hospital. Gusto nya sana mag apply for PR dto sa AU.kelangan pb nya ng bridging course? Someone told her kasi na baka ndi na since ang experince nya is SG. Need your advice po.

bytubytu

Unless she is educated in SG, she may not need to do bridging. It was in the past, the Pinoy educated RNs in SG can be registered in AU straight away. Unfortunately, things changed since last year.

For PR, she needs to be registered as AU RN to lodge an application for skills assessment which she will use for PR application.

zanbi_06

So it means need nya muna mg bridging course bago sya mkapag apply ng PR?
Ano ba dapat ang mas ok n gawin nya mag IRON or mag conversion program ung 1yr na BN course.

bytubytu

Depende po talaga iyan sa applicant. Ako po pinili ko bridging kasi mas mura at mabilis. Ang issue lang sa bridging ay 'yung visa na di makawork. Pero since SG na siya nagwork, for sure pag aagawan siya ng employers.

If you want further details. PM me po.

Charmgeil0325

@bytubytu hi, were applying for visa 189, then EN ako sa sg for 2 yrs but RN ako sa Pinas with 1 1/2 years experience in clinic. Paanu kaya ang gagawin ko for me to work as RN sa au. Nagmessage ako sa isang topic about this sayo.. TIA!

bytubytu

@Charm

Are you the main applicant for 189?

Apply for RN. Just be honest with all your registration and employment history. But apply for RN. What matters to them is that you are RN overseas and you worked as RN too even if your most recent work is as EN. As long as your RN registration in PH is current, its okay.

revsky

@valiantboy maraming salamat sa idea sir.

peach17

hi @bytubytu, iba pa po ba ang IRON program sa Bridging Course?

Ilang years po dapat ang experience sa Pinas, para makapag apply dito?

bytubytu

Bridging Program po ang general term for non-award qualification program leading to registration. It is around 8-16 weeks in duration depending on the school policy. Mostly less than 13 weeks. Different schools would name it differently: IRON, IQNBP, EPIQ-RN, ARNTP.

Conversion Courses are 1 year degree courses leading also to registration.

For bridging, need ka mag undergo sa AHPRA which requires 3 months experience but different schools have their own policies on admittig students, some requires 1-2 yrs exp, some 3 years.

For conversion, not really sure but I heard they don't require experience as long as registered nurse ka abroad.

bytubytu

Bridging Program po ang general term for non-award qualification program leading to registration. It is around 8-16 weeks in duration depending on the school policy. Mostly less than 13 weeks. Different schools would name it differently: IRON, IQNBP, EPIQ-RN, ARNTP.

Conversion Courses are 1 year degree courses leading also to registration.

For bridging, need ka mag undergo sa AHPRA which requires 3 months experience but different schools have their own policies on admitting students, some requires 1-2 yrs exp, some 3 years.

For conversion, not really sure but I heard they don't require experience as long as registered nurse ka abroad.

kimxx

@valiantboy

Typo error lang. Haha. Lagi akong nadadaan sa Melbourne Uni pero di ko pa napasok. Yung RMIT sa city maganda nga. Yung Monash naman madami ding impressive new buildings. Di ko lang feel yung old school buildings nila, hindi classy.

Around 5 years in total. Puro online apps ako mostly seek.com. Yung CO ko noong una mabait, yung re app naman. Deadma palagi. OC OC pa. Kaya tumagal.

Hanap ka muna ng sponsor then roll mo na ANMAC mo. I am sure mas mabilis registration ninyo kasi pwede kang mag apply before your graduation, diba? Yung Fit2Work check sa AU siya, tapos ichecheck nila mga countries na tinirihan mo for more than 6 months. Since PH at AU ka tumira, 2 checks ka. Doble bayad.

If sponsorship fails, atleast ready ka na for PR.

@bytubytu

Hi I've read some of your posts, actually kasi i worked in the UK for 4 years, in a nursing home and hospital, 2 and 2 but as senior nursing assistant. And a recent 1 year hospital work experience as RN in the Phil. IELTS ko is Listening 8.5, Reading 8.5, Speaking 7, Writing 6.5). So I'm considering the offer sa Deakin Uni 1year Bachelor of Nursing, would that lead me to registration upon completion or need to retake IELTS? and Do you have any idea if eligible ako for PR after?. i just wana have a clear picture to what will happen after ng schooling. thank you!

bytubytu

Hi @kimxx

First question, ilang taon ka na po ba?
Second question, ilang taon ka na nagwork as an RN na paid?
Third question, kailan ka nag take ng IELTS?

Decided ka na po ba sa 1 year na Bachelors? Kasi kung ako, I recommend na mag IELTS ka uli and get that 7.0 sa writing since you can combine 2 test results na. I would also want to recommend that you take bridging program na lang since mas mura ito at mas mabilis. Kaya mo naman yang 7.0 na yan for sure, techniques lang talaga.

Kung decided ka na po sa course mo, may tumutulong po ba sa inyong agency or DIY ka po? Pag patapos ka na po sa Deakin, maaring na po kayong mag apply sa AHPRA. Pero po need mo pa rin maka 7.0 all, walang takas po sa 7.0 all.

About PR naman:

Kung RN ka na po sa Australia, may experience as RN kahit 1 yr lang anywhere in the world, ang age ay 25-32, 7.0 all sa IELTS in one take. Maaring po kayong mag PR pero need ninyo po ng state nomination para makakuha ng add 5 points.

Pero kung may 3 years PAID experience ka naman as RN, independent PR na po.

Kung ang 3 yrs exp ka na at may 8.0 na IELTS, mas malaking points po for independent visa.

Pero kung younger than 25 at older 32 ka po at less than 3 yrs paid experience. Sorry po, unfortunately, kahit magpa state nomination ka, di na pwede. Maliban na lang kung masponsor ka sa regional.

valiantboy

@valiantboy

Typo error lang. Haha. Lagi akong nadadaan sa Melbourne Uni pero di ko pa napasok. Yung RMIT sa city maganda nga. Yung Monash naman madami ding impressive new buildings. Di ko lang feel yung old school buildings nila, hindi classy.

Around 5 years in total. Puro online apps ako mostly seek.com. Yung CO ko noong una mabait, yung re app naman. Deadma palagi. OC OC pa. Kaya tumagal.

Hanap ka muna ng sponsor then roll mo na ANMAC mo. I am sure mas mabilis registration ninyo kasi pwede kang mag apply before your graduation, diba? Yung Fit2Work check sa AU siya, tapos ichecheck nila mga countries na tinirihan mo for more than 6 months. Since PH at AU ka tumira, 2 checks ka. Doble bayad.

If sponsorship fails, atleast ready ka na for PR.

@bytubytu

Hi I've read some of your posts, actually kasi i worked in the UK for 4 years, in a nursing home and hospital, 2 and 2 but as senior nursing assistant. And a recent 1 year hospital work experience as RN in the Phil. IELTS ko is Listening 8.5, Reading 8.5, Speaking 7, Writing 6.5). So I'm considering the offer sa Deakin Uni 1year Bachelor of Nursing, would that lead me to registration upon completion or need to retake IELTS? and Do you have any idea if eligible ako for PR after?. i just wana have a clear picture to what will happen after ng schooling. thank you!

To be honest, kung matagal ka nang registered nurse sa UK, direct to PR ka na even before ka mareg as nurse sa AHPRA.

But anyway, madaming iba ibang klase ng permanent residency visa. Yung 189 skilled independent kailangan mo maabot yung 60 points. Otherwise, may ibang klase ng pr like 190 and 485. Still kung galing kang working visa, I think pwede ka rin magapply leading to PR.

One important thing, kailangan ng registration for skills assessment sa 189. Otherwise kung registered ka sa selected countries, may modified assessment. Yung info ng visas nasa immigration website., skills assessment for nursing nasa ANMAC. Check mo lang..

You will definitely need to take ielts or any other english exam and gain all 7 or its equivalent. Otherwise hindi ka mareregister. Kung porsigido kang magaral with your current scores bear in mind that different schools have different English language requirements. Kung hindi mo yun maabot ipapa ELICOS ka o engligh classes.

Charmgeil0325

@bytubytu hi, my husband is the main applicant for visa 189. Ok sige, RN padn ang iregister ko. Thanks ha.

Charmgeil0325

@bytubytu OET is accepted also for APHRA registration? Thanks

danyan2001us

guys ano ma irecommend nyo na nursing school sa friend ko na medyo mas mura kaysa iba....actually she will be here on a student visa pero aged care ang entry point nya then later on mag shift na siya into nursing kasi nursing grad siya sa atin sa pinas....i would appreciate it if anybody can suggest ng mas murang school dito sa melbourne.

JP1

Hi @kimxx
About PR naman:

Kung RN ka na po sa Australia, may experience as RN kahit 1 yr lang anywhere in the world, ang age ay 25-32, 7.0 all sa IELTS in one take. Maaring po kayong mag PR pero need ninyo po ng state nomination para makakuha ng add 5 points.

Pero kung may 3 years PAID experience ka naman as RN, independent PR na po.

Kung ang 3 yrs exp ka na at may 8.0 na IELTS, mas malaking points po for independent visa.

Pero kung younger than 25 at older 32 ka po at less than 3 yrs paid experience. Sorry po, unfortunately, kahit magpa state nomination ka, di na pwede. Maliban na lang kung masponsor ka sa regional.

Just registered to ask for guidance from the people here. My wife and I kasi will be trying.

@bytubytu: tama po ba pagkaintindi ko dito sa pinost niyo. My wife has 5yrs paid working experience as a nurse dito sa Phil. Once she passes her IELTS, say 7 ang score, at natapos sa bridging course, pwede na po siya mag apply for PR?

Pareho kaming nurse pero siya kasi may working experience. Ako e sa call center napadpad. I'm a supervisor pero tingin ko walang tulong sa pag aapply since di naman need. So ang plan ay dependent ako ni wifey at habang nag aaral siya, magttrabaho ako. Magssurvive po kaya? We're also planning on bringing our 2yr old son.

bytubytu

IELTS/OET>AHPRA>Bridging>AHPRA>ANMAC>PR

If she will do bridging program, most likely she cannot work nor can you. They require a visitor visa which has no work rights.

Better to let her finish bridging first while you and your kid is in PH. She will go back, finalise everything. Apply for PR with you and kid as dependents.

You can gamble with other pathway but its too expensive for the three of you. 3 months away from you is worth a sacrifice.

rejai_11

@bytubytu out na anmac assessment mo? Ilan weeks yun?

Electrical_Engr_CDR

@bytubytu, May i ask po, ano po mas preferred ng mga Hospital yung nakatapos ng bridging or nakatapos ng Conversion?

bytubytu

@rejai_11, 8 weeks. May kilala akong 4 weeks.

@Electrical_Engr_CDR, 'yung mas maraming experience. Kung specialty, better. Both bridging and conversion leads to registration anyway. I think ang pros lan sa conversion mas matami kang means to find work after registration kasi nasa AU. You can call them directly. May mga employers na ayaw yunawag overseas, gusto ng face to face, which I experienced.

yhamnery

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Depende sa iyo. If may pera kang gumastos ng 1 year, go ka. Degree din iyan. Kung wala naman, mag 3 months bridging ka.

Kung makakakuha ka agad ng slot sa UQ, this year ba iyan? At kaya mo mag finance, I think go for it na rin. Kasi di mo na need mag undergo before hand sa AHPRA and before graduation mo dyan makapag apply ka na as RN sa AHPRA.

Medyo matagal kasi magpa assess sa AHPRA ngayon. Last year, around 1 year waiting. I think ngayon, around 6 months. Tapos after bridging, around 4-6 weeks wait again.

Another consideration is work rights. Kapag bridging program ka, wala kang work rights pagkatapos kasi mostly under visitor visa ka. Iba kapag on student visa ka, may time ka para makapag work after your degree.

I chose bridging program dahil ayon lang kaya kong ifinance (biggest factor), may experience naman na rin ako, mas mabilis maging RN. Fear ko kasi paano kung magbago na naman ang rules ng immigration at mawala na ang RN sa pwedeng maging PR or mas tataasan nila or ng AHPRA ang english requirements. Hindi ko kakayanin ang higher than 7 sa writing,

Plan ko next yr by august. May intake daw ng august. resignation ko kasi sa work sa september pa effective. So mas maganda talaga opportunity kung 1 yr? Natatakot kasi ako kung bridging lang. Baka after nun hnd makaregister tapos uuwi lang.mas mahirap yata yun.saka hassle ang daming requirement na hinihingi ng ahpra for the assessment

Huwag mo naman i-"lang" ang bridging program kasi dyan kami naging RN. We may not have funded ourselves for an expensive conversion course pero RN pa rin kami ngayon. Wala din naman assurance na magkakawork ka as RN kung mag 1 year degree ka just like bridging. Baka umuwi ka lang ding luhaan. Maybe you can work as RN pag naregister ka na with your student visa, eh hanggang kailan lang ba valid ang student visa mo? Then kapag nagexpire na iyan, wala kang assurance na ma sponsor ka. Pahirapan na kasi masponsor ngayon. So, in the end babalik ka rin sa Pinas. Walang masama bumalik sa Pinas na maghintay, mas mura sa Pinas mamuhay habang naghihintay kaysa nasa Australia ka nga, wala ka namang trabaho. Di hamak na mas mura ang return ticket.

At kung hassle sa iyo ang paperwork ng AHPRA which is simple lang naman kung iintindihin. Mas magiging hassle sayo mamuhay sa Australia. At bakit ka naman matatakot na hindi ka maregister after bridging program? Bihira bumabagsak doon. Easy lang bridging program. Personally, wala pa akong first-hand story na bumagsak doon. At kung mag start ka ngayon mag apply sa AHPRA, baka RN ka na next year yung mga possible classmates mo sa UQ, hindi pa nagsisimula sa klase nila OR hindi ka pa nagstart sa UQ mag aral, yung mga nag apply sa AHPRA ay next year RN na or better yet, permanent residents na.

Just my two cents. Decision mo pa rin iyan in the end.

mam ask ko lang if kylangan bng recently employed pag nag apply sa ahpra?tnx

nimsay9x

@bytubyu @valiantboy confirm ko lang po nag back read po kasi ako and nabasa ko po na yung 15pts sa points test for independent visa ay pwede makuha pag BSN sa pinas? may nabasa naman po ako na BN sa AU ang makakuha ng 15pts either through 1yr conversion course or ung 2yrs po. Ano po yung totoo? Hehe.

Another thing po kapag naman po sa 1yr conversion/2yrs BN course ay
IELTS>STUDENT VISA/BN(1YRor2YRS)>AHPRA>ANMAC>PR tama po ba?

and yung sa OET po pwede po yung instead na IELTS pag mag apply palang ng Student visa?

THANKS po!

shaynetot

@bytubytu and @valiantboy Hi guys! newbie ako sa thread na to. I just want to consult something with you guys. I am a CPA and my hubby is a RN in the Philippines. Ako primary applicant for PR visa since ako magtatake ng PTE-A, and my husband will only submit a certificate stating na english ang medium of instruction to qualify sa family applicant visa. Question lang po: Is he still required to take IELTS po once na PR na kami for RN registration purposes in Au? What are the process po that he will undergo para maging RN sya sa Au? Thank you and God bless!

rejai_11

@bytubytu and @valiantboy Hi guys! newbie ako sa thread na to. I just want to consult something with you guys. I am a CPA and my hubby is a RN in the Philippines. Ako primary applicant for PR visa since ako magtatake ng PTE-A, and my husband will only submit a certificate stating na english ang medium of instruction to qualify sa family applicant visa. Question lang po: Is he still required to take IELTS po once na PR na kami for RN registration purposes in Au? What are the process po that he will undergo para maging RN sya sa Au? Thank you and God bless!

hi if i may, yes po he needs to take english exam any of 4 na iaacept ng ahpra. Check nyo ahpra website then go to international nurses, or browse Agos 40 form which yun ang requirement pag mag apply sa ahpra. He will also more likely need to undergo bridging program after that.

valiantboy

@nimsay9x Hmm, wala pa ako sa stage na yan to be honest. But, as long as mapakita mo na Bachelor Degree, especially kung university, rather than college/institute, yung sa Pilipinas, then okay siya. Pero it depends sa DIBP.

With regards to AHPRA, I know they most likely won't consider it up to standard. Pero DIBP is a different entity, so it depends on them if they'll consider. I hope that helps.