VETASSESS question

jrgongon · August 2015

@pausatio ok na ako sa ielts last january pa sir un nga lang may 6.5 ako kaya competent english lang ako,....walang points na macrecredit...umaasa ako na maka 20 or 15 sa skills kasi as of now age ko 30 pts na...educ malamang 15 pts din base sa mga bachelor degree...so kung maka 15 ako sa skills assessment pasok na ako sa 60 pts...pero kung mas papalarin at makakuha ng 20 sa skills edi wow...mas masaya kasi 65 points na ako...hehehehe

omeng22 · August 2015

Sir, pano po makkuha ng 20pts sa skills? as of now self assessment ko kasi 55pts lng din ako e....

jrgongon · August 2015

dapat nasa 15 years ka atang nagwowork...hehehe...dko din alam eh.....pero ako kasi safe for 60 points so kung maka 20 points ako edi masaya..base sa self assessment kung more than 8 years ka ata nagwowork additional 20 points un...dko lang sure

omeng22 · August 2015

@jrgongon sa nabasa ko kasi sir prang hngang 15 points lang max sa overseas experience (outside Australia)? sana nga meron, para umabot din ako ng 60pts hehehe

cathcath · August 2015

Hi @jrgongon

Pwede po ba magpatulong, magpapa-assess na po sana ako sa VETASSESS pero may doubt po ako sa occupation code ko. Pwede po ba talaga sakin ung Construction Project Manager (ANZSCO Code 133111) or should I choose Project Builder (ANZSCO Code 133112)? Kapag "Manager" po ba ung nakalagay sa code literally kailangan manager din po naging position ko? I was a Cadd Operator in Philippines then here in Singapore I was a Planning Engineer and now I'm a Construction Planner. Please help me naman po regarding on this matter. I studied Project Construction Management, btw. Thank you very much po.

cathcath · August 2015

Hi @filipinacpa

Pwede po ba magpatulong, magpapa-assess na po sana ako sa VETASSESS pero may doubt po ako sa occupation code ko. Pwede po ba talaga sakin ung Construction Project Manager (ANZSCO Code 133111) or should I choose Project Builder (ANZSCO Code 133112)? Kapag "Manager" po ba ung nakalagay sa code literally kailangan manager din po naging position ko? I was a Cadd Operator in Philippines then here in Singapore I was a Planning Engineer and now I'm a Construction Planner. Please help me naman po regarding on this matter. I studied Project Construction Management, btw. Thank you very much po.

cathcath · August 2015

Hi @superluckyclover

Pwede po ba magpatulong, magpapa-assess na po sana ako sa VETASSESS pero may doubt po ako sa occupation code ko. Pwede po ba talaga sakin ung Construction Project Manager (ANZSCO Code 133111) or should I choose Project Builder (ANZSCO Code 133112)? Kapag "Manager" po ba ung nakalagay sa code literally kailangan manager din po naging position ko? I was a Cadd Operator in Philippines then here in Singapore I was a Planning Engineer and now I'm a Construction Planner. Please help me naman po regarding on this matter. I studied Project Construction Management, btw. Thank you very much po.

superluckyclover · August 2015

@cathcath Hello i guess kelangan mo din i consider yung bachelors mo. If less than 5 years exp mo as project builder or cpm. Tsaka po yung job description mo. Nasa anzco search yung specific details nung dalawa. Mga special considerations etc :-)

jrgongon · August 2015

@cathcath hi...nasa description ng ipapa assess mo ung mga details ng ipapa assess mo...i think hindi ka sa construction project manager...ako kasi kaya sa construction project manager literal ko kasi na hinahandle ang mga project on site kaya swak sa pina assess ko ung construction project manager...medyo ung work mo nag shift ka to three fields na medyo magkakaibang line...i think as a civil engineer ang category mo...pero dko lang sure....baka sa engineers australia ang mag aassess sa iyo...

jrgongon · August 2015

@cathcath may i know kung ilang years ka naging cad operator...then ilang years ka naging planning engineer then ilang years ka din naging construction planner....then find the most common denominator sa kanilang tatlo then saka ka mamili ng field na ipapa assess mo...

cathcath · August 2015

@jrgongon
1 year for cadd operator, 1 and 3 months for Planning Engineer and this October 2015 mag 3 years na ako dito sa current job ko as Construction Planner. Almost the same work naman ung sa Planning Engineer saka Construction Planner work ko.

133111 Construction Project Manager
A highly relevant field of study is Construction Project Management, which is the study
of planning and controlling building projects (ASCED). General management degrees
without underpinning or related studies in construction/civil engineering or building
would not usually be positively assessed for this occupation. Qualifications in
Architectural Studies with supporting highly relevant employment will be considered on
a case-by-case basis.

133112 Project Builder A highly relevant field of study is Building Science and Technology, or Building
Construction Management (ASCED).

-Para kasing mas swak ako sa info na binigay sa CPM kesa sa Project Builder.hehe palagay ko lang naman..

cathcath · August 2015

@jrgongon - What do you mean na ang engineers australia ang mag-aasess sakin? Saka lahat naman ng work ko related sa construction at the same time nagmomonitor din ako sa site. Nag-work din pala ako sa project management firm, at first, on-the-job traing then inabsorb na ako ng company but hindi ako masyadong nagtagal dun. overall experience till date is 5.7 years na akong nagwowork excluded the OJT part. And one more thing, can I consider that sa points ko sa skilled occupation, at least 5 but less than 8 years = 10 points?

Thank you sa pagtulong.

cathcath · August 2015

@superluckyclover

OJT for 4 months and 3 months as project management staff (same company), 1 year for cadd operator, 1 and 3 months for Planning Engineer and this coming October 2015 mag 3 years na ako dito sa current job ko as Construction Planner. Almost the same work naman ung sa Planning Engineer saka Construction Planner work ko.

133111 Construction Project Manager
A highly relevant field of study is Construction Project Management, which is the study
of planning and controlling building projects (ASCED). General management degrees
without underpinning or related studies in construction/civil engineering or building
would not usually be positively assessed for this occupation. Qualifications in
Architectural Studies with supporting highly relevant employment will be considered on
a case-by-case basis.

133112 Project Builder A highly relevant field of study is Building Science and Technology, or Building
Construction Management (ASCED).

-Para kasing mas swak ako sa info na binigay sa CPM kesa sa Project Builder.hehe palagay ko lang naman..

Overall experience till date is 5.7 years na akong nagwowork excluded the OJT part. And one more thing, can I consider that sa points ko sa skilled occupation, at least 5 but less than 8 years = 10 points?

Thank you sa pagtulong ah.

jrgongon · August 2015

@cathcath i think ndi nila kinoconsider kapag ojt...kailangan paid employment...sorry but hindi ko masagot ung concern mo,....sensya na...sa akin kasi kaya construction project manager ang ginamit ko kasi lahat ng coe ko na naprovide is construction project manager/project manager ung mismong nakaindicate na work....ung case mo kasi example dba nag cad operator ka...so ang category na pasok duon ay civil engineering draftperson...ung sa pagiging planner un ang ndi ko lang po alam kung sang category or criteria ka magfall...try ko isearch para matulungan ka

cathcath · August 2015

wow! thanks, @jrgongon
Kapag mali ba ung na nominate mong occupation may tendency na ireject nila un o pwede bang iappeal ung ganon? o magrerecommend sila ng occupation na pwede sayo? Sorry dami kong tanong.

jrgongon · August 2015

@cathcath pag mali ka ata ng napili na ipapa assess mo ba bye ang 27k mo....ndi ko lang sure pero un ang pagkakaalam ko kaya dapat tama ang ipapa assess mo...can you give me a more detailed job description mo as construction planner at planning engineer...ano ang mga ginagawa mo exact sa company para maassess natin ng maayos kung saan ka babagsak na category

cathcath · August 2015

@jrgongon

Construction Planner
• Coordinating information for creating programs for individual projects using the required software (Primavera P6 / MS Project).
• Prepare and maintain detailed engineering and construction schedules including development of critical path and project float.
• Established sequencing and lead time of each material to meet client forecasted master schedule.
• Preparing tender / baseline / working programs.
• Updating progress of work using the required software (Primavera P6 / MS Project).
• Preparation of catch-up program to recover delays with project personnel.
• Preparing impact analysis using working program for extension of time (EOT) and notice of delay (NOD) claims.

Planning Engineer
• Involve in preparing Master Programme and Master Construction Programme using the required software (Primavera / MS Project.
• Involve in preparing Logistics Planning for the site.
• Assist the Project Manager in overseeing the construction activities and progress, planning, implementation and monitoring work schedules in accordance to the master programme and detailed work programs.
• Involve in planning of Tower Crane Layout and utilization.
• Liaising with the authorities for the preliminary submissions.
• Preparing sub-structure construction sequence for excavation, piling and basement slab.
• Preparing monitoring work progress at site, plan sub-tasks in details, understand and coordinate structural, architectural and M&E works requirements.
• Preparing presentation and documentation for every site progress meeting.
• Responsible for construction planning of the project, liaising with clients / consultants on preparing construction program for site progress.
• Preparing HDB report to the Consultants.
• Preparing Productivity and Quality Presentation for company forum.
• Preparing site works arrangements, sequence and requirements, design temporary works requirements, and resolve drawings discrepancies.

thank you talaga.

jrgongon · August 2015

@cathcath hi...based sa initial assessment ko ndi ka under sa construction project manager...kasi pag construction project manager ikaw dapat ung nagmumura sa site....ung tipong nakakalbo na at laging banas sa patrabaho...ung tipong sinasapak mo ung mga tauhan...hehehe...ganun kasi ako eh...parang more on software related ka eh...sa tingin ko in general as civil engineer ang pasok ng case mo...as civil engineer alam ko sa engineers australia ang assessing body mo but kuha ka pa din ng second opinion ha...nagkataon lang kasi na ung pina assess ko literal na literal na umangkop sa akin...hehehee

jrgongon · August 2015

@cathcath once i get into my laptop post ko dito....basta as of now gather all documents na...ok

filipinacpa · August 2015

@cathcath if you are unsure, get the advisory service of vetassess. They will advice you which occupation you should nominate based on your documents and they will also assess the completeness of your docs to speed up the processing of your actual assessment.

jrgongon · August 2015

@cathcath hi..eto ung kapag as Civil Engineer ung pina assess mo check mo kung mas angkop sa iyo ito

Civil Engineer

Plans, designs, organises and oversees the construction and operation of dams, bridges, pipelines, gas and water supply schemes, sewerage systems, airports and other civil engineering projects.

Tasks

determining construction methods, materials and quality standards, and drafting and interpreting specifications, drawings, plans, construction methods and procedures
organising and directing site labour and the delivery of construction materials, plant and equipment, and establishing detailed programs for the coordination of site activities
obtaining soil and rock samples at different depths across sites and testing samples to determine strength, compressibility and other factors that affect the behaviour of soil and rock when a structure is imposed and determining the safe loading for the soil
studying architectural and engineering drawings and specifications to estimate total costs, and preparing detailed cost plans and estimates as tools to assist in budgetary control
monitoring changes to designs, assessing effects on cost, and measuring, valuing and negotiating variations to designs
analysing structural systems for both static and dynamic loads
designing structures to ensure they do not collapse, bend, twist or vibrate in undesirable ways
assessing present and future travel flow patterns taking into account population increase and needs change
designing the physical aspects of transportation systems such as highways, railroads, urban transit, air transportation, logistical supply systems and their terminals

jrgongon · August 2015

@cathcath eto naman kasi kung Construction Project Manager ka...

Construction Project Manager

Plans, organises, directs, controls and coordinates construction of civil engineering and building projects, and the physical and human resources involved in the construction process.

Tasks

interpreting architectural drawings and specifications
coordinating labour resources, and procurement and delivery of materials, plant and equipment
consulting with Architects, Engineering Professionals and other professionals, and Technical and Trades Workers
negotiating with building owners, property developers and subcontractors involved in the construction process to ensure projects are completed on time and within budget
preparing tenders and contract bids
operating and implementing coordinated work programs for sites
ensuring adherence to building legislation and standards of performance, quality, cost and safety
arranging submission of plans to local authorities
building under contract, or subcontracting specialised building services
overseeing the standard and progress of subcontractors' work
arranging building inspections by local authorities

jrgongon · August 2015

@cathcath hope kahit papano nakapagbigay ako ng konting help...good luck

cathcath · August 2015

@filipinacpa how po? call ko sila o mag-email lang ako? san po pwede silang macontact?
thank you po sa info.

cathcath · August 2015

@jrgongon oks po.. i'll try na lang na kontakin sila for further information. Maraming salamat talaga.

cathcath · August 2015

@jrgongon
Yes, almost complete na docs ko bale hinihintay ko na lang ung result ng IELTS ko by tomorrow na rin lalabas un bago ako magproceed sa skills assessment ko saka baka itry ko na lang ung advisory service ng VETASSESS para sure din kesa ma-double pay pa ako ng application fee ko. thanks ulit ah.