Adding Secondary Applicants (Married/De-Facto/Engaged)

jiomariano · April 2017

@ultimecia25 Affidavits from your friends and family will help too. Tapos things like invitations na nakaaddress sa inyo, gym memberships, social media interaction, phone call logs and all that. Kaya nyo yan

thirdy@aus · April 2017

@lock_code2004, @Xiaomau82 or sino pong makasagot.

Magandang araw po,

Balak ko pong mg-apply ng subclass 189. Based po sa website ng DIBP, pwde isama ang married partner. Married po ako since 2014 pero di pa kami nag-sama ng Mrs ko kasi ngtatrabaho ako abroad. Isa sa mga requirement para maisama ko sa application si Mrs ay: "you live together, or do not live separately on a permanent basis".

Tanong ko po:

1. Enough na po ba ang Marriage Certificate na katibayan na asawa ko sya at pwdeng ko syang isama sa application ?

2. Kung "No" ang sagot sa unang tanong, may requirement po ba na ilang buwan or taon kmi "living together" para maisama ko sya sa application? Kagaya ng De Facto partner, may requirement na at least 6 to 12 months na "living together". May requirement din po ba na ganito sa legally married kagaya ko?

Eto po ang source ng partner information ng DIBP: https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Visa/Incl

Salamat po.

lock_code2004 · April 2017

@thirdy@aus kung married kayo eh enough na ang married cert..

thirdy@aus · April 2017

@lock_code2004, salamat po sa response.

ultimecia25 · April 2017

Hi everyone. Question po.

kung ang primary applicant ay nagaapply ng visa 189, anong type ng visa ang magagrant sa skilled partner?
Salamat!

Xiaomau82 · April 2017

ultimecia25 said:
Hi everyone. Question po. kung ang primary applicant ay nagaapply ng visa 189, anong type ng visa ang magagrant sa skilled partner?

Salamat!

same as the main applicant

Xiaomau82 · April 2017

lock_code2004 said:
@thirdy@aus kung married kayo eh enough na ang married cert..

tama si @lock_code2004 enough na ang marriage cert kahit never pa kayong nagsama. thats applicable lang for de facto

ultimecia25 · April 2017

Hi! May nakapagrequest na po ba dito ng phone call logs sa globe?

cdmercado111 · April 2017

Hello question lang po, ano po maganda gawin before maglodge ng application, mas maganda ba magpakasal muna and then marriage certificate lang need or pwede na de facto nalang pero kulang kami sa evidences kasi sakin lang nakapangalan ung apartment and billings.

Hope may makasagot ng questions

Xiaomau82 · April 2017

cdmercado111 said:
Hello question lang po, ano po maganda gawin before maglodge ng application, mas maganda ba magpakasal muna and then marriage certificate lang need or pwede na de facto nalang pero kulang kami sa evidences kasi sakin lang nakapangalan ung apartment and billings.

Hope may makasagot ng questions

mas madali kun kasal na, then lodge the application. mas hassle sa requirements kun de facto

iamkcgm · May 2017

Xiaomau82 said:

cdmercado111 said:
Hello question lang po, ano po maganda gawin before maglodge ng application, mas maganda ba magpakasal muna and then marriage certificate lang need or pwede na de facto nalang pero kulang kami sa evidences kasi sakin lang nakapangalan ung apartment and billings.

Hope may makasagot ng questions
mas madali kun kasal na, then lodge the application. mas hassle sa requirements kun de facto

@Xiaomau82 sa EOI kaba mag lodge ng application na married if kasal na kayo tama?

kpantig18 · May 2017

Hi po mga sir/mam

Ganito po yung situation ko ngayon: kasi na submit ko na po yung skills assessment ko mid April, ANSZCO 312111 po. Which is yung result daw is 3-4 months. Pero po after 3 weeks nung submission ko, nag propose na po si BF and plano na din po sana namin mag civil wedding para mabilis ko na din sya ma sali sa application ko.

Question:
1. Kapag kinasal po ba kami within a month, kailangan ko po ba mag palit ng passport kasi iba na apelyido ko?

2. Papano po kung ikasal kami after lumabas ng result ng skills assessment, what should I do po? Kasi yung skills assessment naghahanap ng certificate of change name eh that time N/A po sa akin.

3. General question, Kailan nyo po isasuggest na ikasal kami? Hehe

Thank you in advance po!

SAP_TRM · May 2017

hello, i just wanted to check for those who applied for subclass 189 with a partner (na bf-gf), is it a requirement na live-in kayo? sorry, di kasi masyado clear sa thread here. i just want to make sure. anyone who has this experience, i hope they can share here. thanks!

jiomariano · May 2017

@joseflim Hindi sya hard rule, lalo na kung majujustify nyo why di kayo magkasama like dahil sa work or if in cases like in the middle east, bawal magsama yung di kasal.

SAP_TRM · May 2017

@jiomariano Thanks for your response. In our case kasi the reason is simply because we are not married yet. However, we have a joint bank account and condominium under both are names that we are both paying for. Is that sufficient proof of a partner relationship?

jiomariano · May 2017

@joseflim I'd say those are very good evidences pero sufficient, tough to say. Check out these links para makita which other documents you can provide:

http://myaccessaustralia.com/partner-visa-evidencing-your-relationship-820-801-309-100-visa/

http://guides.dss.gov.au/guide-social-security-law/2/2/5/10

If nabackread mo na tong thread, you'll get an idea sa binigay na documents ng mga successful applicants. Kapag nagrant kami, I can share with you too kung ano documents binigay namin pero basically ginaya lang namin yung mga napost dito, and then some

All the best!

SAP_TRM · May 2017

@jiomariano thanks for sharing those links. i've actually tried to back read as much as i can but i could not find one that pinpoints directly to someone who were not living together (under one roof) but successfully got a partner visa.

KarlaD · May 2017

Hello all, anyone here who knows the requirements for engaged applicants? Thanks in advance!

michaelguanzon_ust · May 2017

Good day everyone. Would like to ask kung ano dapat isagot sa question na to under EOI form kapag mag sasama ka ng partner sa application mo as in sabay kayo sa processing. YES ba or NO? Thank you so much in advance sa sasagot and God bless!

Question:
FAMILY MEMBERS:

Would the client be accompanied by the client's partner in a future application?*
YES or NO?

kpantig18 · June 2017

lock_code2004 said:
@thirdy@aus kung married kayo eh enough na ang married cert..

Kailangan po ba same kayo ng apelyido sa passport? Ako po kasi yung main applicant tapos babae po ako. Kailangan ko po kaya mag renew pa ng passport? 6 weeks minimum processing pa naman dito sa SG huhu.

eujin · June 2017

hi @kpantig18 , nope. ginamit ng wife ko yung old passport nya with her maiden name.

kpantig18 · June 2017

eujin said:
hi @kpantig18 , nope. ginamit ng wife ko yung old passport nya with her maiden name.

Wow that's a relief!!! Thank you po for answering my query!!!

justice143 · July 2017

hello everyone, ask lang pwede ba kami apply ng partner ko for defacto even if we never lived together? kasi we were both working in KSA before. Ako nasa Pinas na, sya andun pa din. If pwede, anong mga documents ipapakita namen? thanks.

dark_knight · August 2017

Hi Everyone,

We are currently gathering evidence for Visa 189. We are planning to use the following as evidence:

certificate of residency from our condo corp
airline/travel itineraries of our trips
email threads of BPI fund transfers (wala kasi kaming joint account)
credit card statement, kasi supplementary ko sya
statutory declaration from her parents, our friends that we are in a continuous relationship and are living together
supplier contracts for our wedding (next year pa kasi) e.g. photo/video, events place, etc
pictures together

Tingin nyo enough na yan?
Yung mga pictures, travel itineraries, email threads ba kailangan pa iprint at ipa-CTC?? Or lahat ipa-CTC ko na (aside sa SD)? Dito talaga ko litong-lito, alin ang dapat ipa-CTC?

TIA!

cheesyfiona · August 2017

Hi everyone. If in case nag lodge ka na ng 189 visa application, and then nagpa update ka ng passport to married name, possible pa ba ma update yung information para magamit ko yung married name in case ma-grant?

dark_knight · September 2017

dark_knight said:
Hi Everyone,

We are currently gathering evidence for Visa 189. We are planning to use the following as evidence:

certificate of residency from our condo corp
airline/travel itineraries of our trips
email threads of BPI fund transfers (wala kasi kaming joint account)
credit card statement, kasi supplementary ko sya
statutory declaration from her parents, our friends that we are in a continuous relationship and are living together
supplier contracts for our wedding (next year pa kasi) e.g. photo/video, events place, etc
pictures together
Tingin nyo enough na yan?
Yung mga pictures, travel itineraries, email threads ba kailangan pa iprint at ipa-CTC?? Or lahat ipa-CTC ko na (aside sa SD)? Dito talaga ko litong-lito, alin ang dapat ipa-CTC?

TIA!

Just an update folks, ito mga sinubmit namin and na-grant naman agad visa namin. Please check my signature for the timeline.

Hindi ko na din pina CTC yung mga credit card statements, bank statements, pictures, supplier contracts.

acbien · September 2017

hi po pede po ba makahingi ng format for stat declaration for de facto? could you please send it to my email [email protected]

Thank you very much!

dark_knight · September 2017

@acbien Hi dito ko na lang post yung ginawa ko para pwede din gamitin ng iba. Hope this helps:

STATUTORY DECLARATION – DE FACTO PARNERSHIP

Dear sir or madam,

I am writing this statement to declare that ___________ (XXXXXX) is my de factor partner since July 14 2016.

History of our relationship

I had my first contact with XXXXXX on 12 January 2010. I got her mobile number thru a common friend. I was looking for someone who I can connect with during that time and maybe exclusively date. After we found out that we have lots of things in common, we set up a group date with our common friends. We hit it off immediately and by 11 February 2010, she agreed to be my girlfriend.

We enjoyed doing things together. As you can see in the attached pictures, I influenced her to love traveling. We would make it a point to travel on our anniversary (every February) and my birthday month (every June).

Apart from minor disagreements, our relationship is very stable. When her apartment unit was damaged by rainwater on the 1st week of July 2016, it was an easy decision on my part to ask her to move in with me in my condominium unit instead of looking for a new place to live. On 14 July 2016, she officially moved in with me. Attached here are certificates of residency from our condominium corporation.

Financial aspects

We don’t have a fixed agreement on our financial obligations but we support each other financially on a best-effort basis:

1. When traveling together, I’m the one in charge of booking flights and hotels, as well as planning the itinerary. I would pay for the costs and then she would pay me back once she receives her next salary.
2. When XXXXXX moved in with me:
a. In 2016, she would sometimes pay the homeowners association dues using her credit card on my behalf
b. In 2017, I paid the association dues for the whole year in advance so she just opted to transfer money on my account
3. I have been a Citibank credit card holder since 2011 and XXXXXX has been my supplementary card recipient ever since. I normally pay the amount due every cutoff and she would pay me right away on her next payday.
4. We share expenses when we buy new appliances/furniture e.g. Sofa, water heater, exhaust fan. We take turns in paying for the groceries.

Attached here are travel itineraries, credit card statements, and email exchanges that would support the items above.

The Nature of our commitment to each other

I would like to state our commitment to each other is 100%. After 7 years of relationship, I proposed to her during our Sydney trip last 16 April 2017 and we are already planning for our wedding. The wedding is scheduled on 11 February 2018 which will coincide with our 8th anniversary as a couple. Attached here are supplier contracts and receipts that would support this claim.

I thank you for taking the time to read this statement. I trust that we have been able to provide sufficient evidence that we are in a genuine and continuing de facto relationship.

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Basically yung History, Financial Aspects tsaka yung Nature of Commitment yung mahalaga. Iba-iba naman tayo dyan so feel free to write kung ano talaga yung sa inyo

acbien · September 2017

@dark_knight thank you very much sir!!

CroweAltius · October 2017

Hello, tanong ko lang po in terms po sa Statutory Declarations iba iba po for family, then friends then yung amin (couple)? so parang madaming Statutory Declarations na notarized yung isasubmit namin?

Hinihingan pa po kasi kami ng additional evidence kasi ung joint account namin was opened less than 6 months.