Engineers Australia Skills Assessment

industrialengineer8 · July 2023

@rmbalingit said:

Ako pinagsama ko sa isang pdf file para isang tingin na lang nila.

Bale po, 1 pdf file per employment? includes all primary and secondary requirements na? Thanks po

Isang pdf file po yun contribution summary saka employment history. Tapos inattach ko same document for all employment history. Kasi makikita na don kung saan saan ka na employ.

onahgondo · July 2023

@mcdadula said:
Hello po. I need help from anyone you have the same experience as me.
I got this EA feedback. What to do about this? TIA.

Hi anong pinili m po? tnuloy m po si technologist?

mcdadula · July 2023

Hi, yes po. And may positive outcome na po last June 28.

letmecode · July 2023

Hi po. May need po ba dito mag hire ng CDR writer? My friend already paid for one but decided not to push through with it since meron na po siyang positive assessment from ACS. Selling for a lower price po.

RheaMARN1171933 · July 2023

@letmecode said:
Hi po. May need po ba dito mag hire ng CDR writer? My friend already paid for one but decided not to push through with it since meron na po siyang positive assessment from ACS. Selling for a lower price po.

I wouldn’t recommend hiring someone to write your CDR….be very careful.

lesgotoOZ · July 2023

pwede po ba gamitin sa CEs yung projects sa university during bachelor's and master's if walang experience that will closely demonstrate the competencies of the occupation? Thank you! If yes, need pa ba ng reference letter yun from the school/professor?

_sebodemacho · July 2023

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@letmecode said:
Hi po. May need po ba dito mag hire ng CDR writer? My friend already paid for one but decided not to push through with it since meron na po siyang positive assessment from ACS. Selling for a lower price po.

I wouldn’t recommend hiring someone to write your CDR….be very careful.

+10000000 infinity and beyond! LOL

And as a professional and board passer at that, why would one do that, right??? It's like letting someone else take over their own life. It's silly.

It's ok for someone close to copyread the text. But, to write it? BIG NO. One must own their experience and qualifications and be able to communicate it the best way they can.

EDIT: Itayo nyo bandila ng mga Inhenyerong Pilipino!!!

onahgondo · July 2023

mga pnasa nyo bang 2316 lahat may tatak ni bir?

Yellow · July 2023

@risukukeito said:

@thegoat said:
Hi po! Ask ko lang if yung reference letter with "detailed engineering duties" ay required din for CDR skill assessment, or sa RSEA lang required?

Yung available COE ko po kasi sa previous company ko ay walang list of duties. Position, company, period of employment, and project name lang ang nakalagay.

Thank you po sa sasagot.

Hi! For CDR, need mo yung detailed reference letter ng companies to where you based your career episodes. For RSEA, required yung detailed reference letter of ALL companies to where you wish to claim points for relevant experience.

Based on my experience, I requested for COE with pay rate from HR and I made my own "detailed reference letter with duties & responsibilities" letter and have it reviewed & signed by my superior/ former senior colleague.

hello @risukukeito yung detailed reference letter with duties and responsibilities letter na ginawa mo and signed by your superior/ former senior colleague, was it in company letterhead or not? If not, were there other documents you provided? notatized? or stat dec?

risukukeito · July 2023

@Yellow said:

@risukukeito said:

@thegoat said:
Hi po! Ask ko lang if yung reference letter with "detailed engineering duties" ay required din for CDR skill assessment, or sa RSEA lang required?

Yung available COE ko po kasi sa previous company ko ay walang list of duties. Position, company, period of employment, and project name lang ang nakalagay.

Thank you po sa sasagot.

Hi! For CDR, need mo yung detailed reference letter ng companies to where you based your career episodes. For RSEA, required yung detailed reference letter of ALL companies to where you wish to claim points for relevant experience.

Based on my experience, I requested for COE with pay rate from HR and I made my own "detailed reference letter with duties & responsibilities" letter and have it reviewed & signed by my superior/ former senior colleague.

hello @risukukeito yung detailed reference letter with duties and responsibilities letter na ginawa mo and signed by your superior/ former senior colleague, was it in company letterhead or not? If not, were there other documents you provided? notatized? or stat dec?

Hi @Yellow, it’s in company letterhead, hiningi ko din sa HR. Then no need for notarization, but make sure na aligned siya sa requirements indicated in MSA booklet (March 2020) page 28.

For my reference letter naman signed by my former senior colleague since ‘di na din siya connected sa company, I attached his passport copy (signed by him) + COE niya as strong evidence na he worked in the same company as I am.

Yellow · July 2023

@risukukeito said:

@Yellow said:

@risukukeito said:

@thegoat said:
Hi po! Ask ko lang if yung reference letter with "detailed engineering duties" ay required din for CDR skill assessment, or sa RSEA lang required?

Yung available COE ko po kasi sa previous company ko ay walang list of duties. Position, company, period of employment, and project name lang ang nakalagay.

Thank you po sa sasagot.

Hi! For CDR, need mo yung detailed reference letter ng companies to where you based your career episodes. For RSEA, required yung detailed reference letter of ALL companies to where you wish to claim points for relevant experience.

Based on my experience, I requested for COE with pay rate from HR and I made my own "detailed reference letter with duties & responsibilities" letter and have it reviewed & signed by my superior/ former senior colleague.

hello @risukukeito yung detailed reference letter with duties and responsibilities letter na ginawa mo and signed by your superior/ former senior colleague, was it in company letterhead or not? If not, were there other documents you provided? notatized? or stat dec?

Hi @Yellow, it’s in company letterhead, hiningi ko din sa HR. Then no need for notarization, but make sure na aligned siya sa requirements indicated in MSA booklet (March 2020) page 28.

For my reference letter naman signed by my former senior colleague since ‘di na din siya connected sa company, I attached his passport copy (signed by him) + COE niya as strong evidence na he worked in the same company as I am.

Sorry, got confused. Yung reference letter signed by your former colleague yung naka company letterhead?

Ayaw ko sana kasi mag request from HR or sa manager ko nito since ayaw ko idisclose sa kanila. But i’m thinking na gagawa ako ng letter then ipa sign siya sa senior colleague ko but hindi siya in company letterhead.

risukukeito · July 2023

@Yellow said:

@risukukeito said:

@Yellow said:

@risukukeito said:

@thegoat said:
Hi po! Ask ko lang if yung reference letter with "detailed engineering duties" ay required din for CDR skill assessment, or sa RSEA lang required?

Yung available COE ko po kasi sa previous company ko ay walang list of duties. Position, company, period of employment, and project name lang ang nakalagay.

Thank you po sa sasagot.

Hi! For CDR, need mo yung detailed reference letter ng companies to where you based your career episodes. For RSEA, required yung detailed reference letter of ALL companies to where you wish to claim points for relevant experience.

Based on my experience, I requested for COE with pay rate from HR and I made my own "detailed reference letter with duties & responsibilities" letter and have it reviewed & signed by my superior/ former senior colleague.

hello @risukukeito yung detailed reference letter with duties and responsibilities letter na ginawa mo and signed by your superior/ former senior colleague, was it in company letterhead or not? If not, were there other documents you provided? notatized? or stat dec?

Hi @Yellow, it’s in company letterhead, hiningi ko din sa HR. Then no need for notarization, but make sure na aligned siya sa requirements indicated in MSA booklet (March 2020) page 28.

For my reference letter naman signed by my former senior colleague since ‘di na din siya connected sa company, I attached his passport copy (signed by him) + COE niya as strong evidence na he worked in the same company as I am.

Sorry, got confused. Yung reference letter signed by your former colleague yung naka company letterhead?

Ayaw ko sana kasi mag request from HR or sa manager ko nito since ayaw ko idisclose sa kanila. But i’m thinking na gagawa ako ng letter then ipa sign siya sa senior colleague ko but hindi siya in company letterhead.

For my previous company, yes in company letterhead din siya and HR provided it naman and I got their permission since hindi sila nagpprovide ng duties & responsibilities letter.

For my current company naman since preferred ko din na ‘wag idisclose sa kanila yung plan ko, I just gave a viable & realistic excuse (since personally, I believe this is a much easier approach) to our HR & superior, then inacknowledge naman nila at nagsign agad superior ko.

If you plan to have it signed by your senior colleague, kahit yung COE with pay rate & working hours na lang ipagawa mo sa HR using your company’s letterhead. For the duties & responsibilities letter naman, kahit wala ng company letterhead but I suggest na magattach ka din ng proof of employment & identification din ng senior colleague mo.

Yellow · July 2023

@risukukeito said:

@Yellow said:

@risukukeito said:

@Yellow said:

@risukukeito said:

@thegoat said:
Hi po! Ask ko lang if yung reference letter with "detailed engineering duties" ay required din for CDR skill assessment, or sa RSEA lang required?

Yung available COE ko po kasi sa previous company ko ay walang list of duties. Position, company, period of employment, and project name lang ang nakalagay.

Thank you po sa sasagot.

Hi! For CDR, need mo yung detailed reference letter ng companies to where you based your career episodes. For RSEA, required yung detailed reference letter of ALL companies to where you wish to claim points for relevant experience.

Based on my experience, I requested for COE with pay rate from HR and I made my own "detailed reference letter with duties & responsibilities" letter and have it reviewed & signed by my superior/ former senior colleague.

hello @risukukeito yung detailed reference letter with duties and responsibilities letter na ginawa mo and signed by your superior/ former senior colleague, was it in company letterhead or not? If not, were there other documents you provided? notatized? or stat dec?

Hi @Yellow, it’s in company letterhead, hiningi ko din sa HR. Then no need for notarization, but make sure na aligned siya sa requirements indicated in MSA booklet (March 2020) page 28.

For my reference letter naman signed by my former senior colleague since ‘di na din siya connected sa company, I attached his passport copy (signed by him) + COE niya as strong evidence na he worked in the same company as I am.

Sorry, got confused. Yung reference letter signed by your former colleague yung naka company letterhead?

Ayaw ko sana kasi mag request from HR or sa manager ko nito since ayaw ko idisclose sa kanila. But i’m thinking na gagawa ako ng letter then ipa sign siya sa senior colleague ko but hindi siya in company letterhead.

For my previous company, yes in company letterhead din siya and HR provided it naman and I got their permission since hindi sila nagpprovide ng duties & responsibilities letter.

For my current company naman since preferred ko din na ‘wag idisclose sa kanila yung plan ko, I just gave a viable & realistic excuse (since personally, I believe this is a much easier approach) to our HR & superior, then inacknowledge naman nila at nagsign agad superior ko.

If you plan to have it signed by your senior colleague, kahit yung COE with pay rate & working hours na lang ipagawa mo sa HR using your company’s letterhead. For the duties & responsibilities letter naman, kahit wala ng company letterhead but I suggest na magattach ka din ng proof of employment & identification din ng senior colleague mo.

Salamat @risukukeito I appreciate the explanation.Thank you so much for clarifying!

lvnrtnr · July 2023

Hello! Magtatanong lang po ako if meron akong katulad ng case dito.

Nagwork ako sa isang company nung Feb2022-Oct2022 (contract of service), so wala ako govt contributions mula sa company na to. Sa EA assessment, nagpasa ako ng job contract, payslip, and ITR (BIR 2307 pag sa case ko). Naka-state sa contract ko na wala akong govt contribution benefits.

Ngayon, humihingi sa akin yun assessor ng ITR na validated ng BIR, at mga proofs ng govt contributions tulad ng sss, pagibig, or philhealth na hindi ko naman mapprovide dahil nga sa nakwento ko above. If hindi ko raw mapprovide, hindi iccount yun exp ko mula sa company na to.

Meron po ba dito na same ng case ko? Ang balak ko ay ipavalidate na lang sa BIR yun bir2307 ko and ireiterate na lang sa reply ko na wala govt contributions yun employment ko sa company na yun? Possible ba magpavalidate mula sa BIR?

RheaMARN1171933 · July 2023

@lvnrtnr said:
Hello! Magtatanong lang po ako if meron akong katulad ng case dito.

Nagwork ako sa isang company nung Feb2022-Oct2022 (contract of service), so wala ako govt contributions mula sa company na to. Sa EA assessment, nagpasa ako ng job contract, payslip, and ITR (BIR 2307 pag sa case ko). Naka-state sa contract ko na wala akong govt contribution benefits.

Ngayon, humihingi sa akin yun assessor ng ITR na validated ng BIR, at mga proofs ng govt contributions tulad ng sss, pagibig, or philhealth na hindi ko naman mapprovide dahil nga sa nakwento ko above. If hindi ko raw mapprovide, hindi iccount yun exp ko mula sa company na to.

Meron po ba dito na same ng case ko? Ang balak ko ay ipavalidate na lang sa BIR yun bir2307 ko and ireiterate na lang sa reply ko na wala govt contributions yun employment ko sa company na yun? Possible ba magpavalidate mula sa BIR?

What does contract of service mean? Based from the limited info you provided, it looks like you worked not as employee for that company but as a contractor which means you’re classified as self employed

letmecode · July 2023

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@letmecode said:
Hi po. May need po ba dito mag hire ng CDR writer? My friend already paid for one but decided not to push through with it since meron na po siyang positive assessment from ACS. Selling for a lower price po.

I wouldn’t recommend hiring someone to write your CDR….be very careful.

@_sebodemacho said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@letmecode said:
Hi po. May need po ba dito mag hire ng CDR writer? My friend already paid for one but decided not to push through with it since meron na po siyang positive assessment from ACS. Selling for a lower price po.

I wouldn’t recommend hiring someone to write your CDR….be very careful.

+10000000 infinity and beyond! LOL

And as a professional and board passer at that, why would one do that, right??? It's like letting someone else take over their own life. It's silly.

It's ok for someone close to copyread the text. But, to write it? BIG NO. One must own their experience and qualifications and be able to communicate it the best way they can.

EDIT: Itayo nyo bandila ng mga Inhenyerong Pilipino!!!

Sorry po may misunderstanding po ata dahil sa term na ginamit ko

Of course I would still write my own CDR since no one really knows what I actually do except myself. Hiring a CDR writer for proofreading purposes po to help me explain, describe and expound what I'm doing in formal words and chronological manner. That's the work of CDR writer. Not necessarily to write the whole CDR. Para lang po maimprove yung CDR since hindi naman po lahat ay kaya pong ma-express yung kanilang detailed job description in a formal and descriptive way.

Basically, yung purpose po ng pag-hire ng CDR writer is to improve lang po yung content para mas madali po siyang maintindihan and mas maganda po yung pagkaka-explain ng job description. Admittedly po hindi po ako ganun kagaling mag describe ng aking ginagawa hehe. Engineers are technical workers po, but not all have the talent in writing... specially if it is not written in our native tounge. I know what words to use but I strongly feel that there are better ways to describe what I am doing. Para lang po better chances of winning.

Wala naman po sigurong masama sa pag-seek ng professional help lalo na po at hindi biro ang gastos ng pagpapa assess ng skills sa EA.

After po dumaan kay CDR writer, syempre i-rereview ko po ulet if ok na po siya (and hopefully learn how to write better along the way). Magkakaron pa po ng discussion between me and the CDR writer para mas mapolish yung CDR before submitting for assessment.

bloombery2020 · July 2023

I have a question regarding lodging your EOI for Engineers Australia after receiving successful assessment such as below:

Which should you choose on the EOI window?

Is it:

“other Qualifications or award recognised by assessing Aurhority “ or “Bachelors Degree in science

Thank you!

Ozdrims · July 2023

@bloombery2020 said:
I have a question regarding lodging your EOI for Engineers Australia after receiving successful assessment such as below:

Which should you choose on the EOI window?

Is it:

“other Qualifications or award recognised by assessing Aurhority “ or “Bachelors Degree in science

Thank you!

If is a Bachelors related to the 3 Body of Knowledge
Choose

Bachelor Degree in Science, Business or Technology

rmbalingit · July 2023

Isang pdf file po yun contribution summary saka employment history. Tapos inattach ko same document for all employment history. Kasi makikita na don kung saan saan ka na employ.

thanks po

rmbalingit · July 2023

Hello, confirm ko lang po, need po bang after graduation ang ilagay dito sa CPD? Also, need po ba ng supporting documents like certificates? Thank you

melvon · July 2023

@rmbalingit said:
Hello, confirm ko lang po, need po bang after graduation ang ilagay dito sa CPD? Also, need po ba ng supporting documents like certificates? Thank you

Yes - After graduation
No - no need to attached supp. docs

RheaMARN1171933 · July 2023

@letmecode said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@letmecode said:
Hi po. May need po ba dito mag hire ng CDR writer? My friend already paid for one but decided not to push through with it since meron na po siyang positive assessment from ACS. Selling for a lower price po.

I wouldn’t recommend hiring someone to write your CDR….be very careful.

@_sebodemacho said:

@RheaMARN1171933 said:

@letmecode said:
Hi po. May need po ba dito mag hire ng CDR writer? My friend already paid for one but decided not to push through with it since meron na po siyang positive assessment from ACS. Selling for a lower price po.

I wouldn’t recommend hiring someone to write your CDR….be very careful.

+10000000 infinity and beyond! LOL

And as a professional and board passer at that, why would one do that, right??? It's like letting someone else take over their own life. It's silly.

It's ok for someone close to copyread the text. But, to write it? BIG NO. One must own their experience and qualifications and be able to communicate it the best way they can.

EDIT: Itayo nyo bandila ng mga Inhenyerong Pilipino!!!

Sorry po may misunderstanding po ata dahil sa term na ginamit ko

Of course I would still write my own CDR since no one really knows what I actually do except myself. Hiring a CDR writer for proofreading purposes po to help me explain, describe and expound what I'm doing in formal words and chronological manner. That's the work of CDR writer. Not necessarily to write the whole CDR. Para lang po maimprove yung CDR since hindi naman po lahat ay kaya pong ma-express yung kanilang detailed job description in a formal and descriptive way.

Basically, yung purpose po ng pag-hire ng CDR writer is to improve lang po yung content para mas madali po siyang maintindihan and mas maganda po yung pagkaka-explain ng job description. Admittedly po hindi po ako ganun kagaling mag describe ng aking ginagawa hehe. Engineers are technical workers po, but not all have the talent in writing... specially if it is not written in our native tounge. I know what words to use but I strongly feel that there are better ways to describe what I am doing. Para lang po better chances of winning.

Wala naman po sigurong masama sa pag-seek ng professional help lalo na po at hindi biro ang gastos ng pagpapa assess ng skills sa EA.

After po dumaan kay CDR writer, syempre i-rereview ko po ulet if ok na po siya (and hopefully learn how to write better along the way). Magkakaron pa po ng discussion between me and the CDR writer para mas mapolish yung CDR before submitting for assessment.

All I can say is that all my engineer clients wrote there CDR’s by themselves…from the over 10 years experience I’ve been working in this industry, to this date, we’ve not had any negative outcome and all clients managed to write their CDR’s without resorting to any help. Basically if engineers managed to get a degree, they can manage to write their own CDR….if that makes sense.

If one wants to pay and hire someone then that’s their own risk. EA is very strict about these things and if they suspect the applicant has not written the submission, they wouldn’t hesitate to question the applicant. Hence the reason why no MARA agents will ever encourage anyone from using a third party provider.

enrico0919 · July 2023

@RheaMARN1171933 any news po kelan ang NSW 190 rounds ?

Irene16 · August 2023

@rmbalingit said:
Good day! Ask ko lang po kung hindi ba ako ma-plagiarism kung maglalagay ako ng screenshot ng SYSTEM namin sa office sa cdr ko? Thank you

Anything na screenshot from other sources maglagay po kayo ng reference kung saan nakuha para hindi maconsider na plagiarism.

rmbalingit · August 2023

@Irene16 said:

@rmbalingit said:
Good day! Ask ko lang po kung hindi ba ako ma-plagiarism kung maglalagay ako ng screenshot ng SYSTEM namin sa office sa cdr ko? Thank you

Anything na screenshot from other sources maglagay po kayo ng reference kung saan nakuha para hindi maconsider na plagiarism.

Noted on this po, thank you

Busy_book · August 2023

Hi, I just got a request for information from EA today. They wanted the complete reference letter (with duties pay rate etc), for my current employer.

In my original application for MSA, I submitted the job offer (with pay rate) with job descriptions (including more than 5 tasks). I thought those are acceptable primary documents on top of the "plain" COE.

I'm a little scared to ask my HR for the detailed letter.
Can I just explain that i already submitted the JO and JD and that they should recheck it? Or should I ask my HR? I asked my senior coworker and he doesn't want to write anything in the company letter head.

I only have one chance to do this, so I want to ask for input from here. Thanks!

Ozdrims · August 2023

@Busy_book said:
Hi, I just got a request for information from EA today. They wanted the complete reference letter (with duties pay rate etc), for my current employer.

In my original application for MSA, I submitted the job offer (with pay rate) with job descriptions (including more than 5 tasks). I thought those are acceptable primary documents on top of the "plain" COE.

I'm a little scared to ask my HR for the detailed letter.
Can I just explain that i already submitted the JO and JD and that they should recheck it? Or should I ask my HR? I asked my senior coworker and he doesn't want to write anything in the company letter head.

I only have one chance to do this, so I want to ask for input from here. Thanks!

Better comply on the EA standard request , it should be submitted in their format at the first instance . With regards to your HR , the request depends on your message and persuasion ,no one can stop you from chasing your dreams and they can’t dismiss you with just one letter. Try it ,mostly our fears are superficial. You can make it! If that does not work ,speak to your line managers to convince your HR ,is a matter of influence and persuasion ,hope it helps!

Yellow · August 2023

Hi! Question, sa secondary documents. Ilang payment evidence need? Just want to clarify if need ba na dalawa ang payment evidence? Sa first bullet, itr tapos may “and/or” then second bullet.

MangJuan08 · August 2023

@Yellow said:

Hi! Question, sa secondary documents. Ilang payment evidence need? Just want to clarify if need ba na dalawa ang payment evidence? Sa first bullet, itr tapos may “and/or” then second bullet.

For the Secondary documents, on my case I submitted 2 para mas safe kung lahat meron ka submit mo wala nman masama dun.

Yellow · August 2023

@MangJuan08 said:

@Yellow said:

Hi! Question, sa secondary documents. Ilang payment evidence need? Just want to clarify if need ba na dalawa ang payment evidence? Sa first bullet, itr tapos may “and/or” then second bullet.

For the Secondary documents, on my case I submitted 2 para mas safe kung lahat meron ka submit mo wala nman masama dun.

Sa second employment ko po na 2016-present, complete ko yung ITR except 2016, kaya nag aalangan akong gamitin sya