Accountant

staycool · May 2013

@lhenglheng what do you mean nagpa-assess kayo sa NIA and got a favorable answer pero wala pang skills assessment?...kse yun na po ang skill assessment, if i am not mistaken... btw, ano pong profession yung NIA?...CPA Asutralia po kse ako nagpa-assess for Accountants...

@vhoythoy ask ko lang po, nagbayad po ba ang wifey mo to be a member tlga as Associate CPA sa CPA Australia?... kse dun din po ako nagpa-assess pero hindi pa ako nagbabayad ng membership...and i think it will expire next year (5 years after) ... dapat ba talaga magbayad and magpa-member to be a certified Associate Member?...what if nag-lapse na po, will that require me to apply again??

staycool · May 2013

@vhoythoy ay sorry, hindi po pala wife mo ... ikaw po pala ... that was for @psychoboy pala ... pero sir @vhoythoy, san po ninyo balak na State mag-initial entry?... and visa 189 po kayo?

vhoythoy · May 2013

@staycool, i think you are referring to psychoboy's wife not mine hahaha. For assessment purposes i think not required. You are required for membership if gusto mo magpursue ng cpa australia certification which is different from assesmment purposes. Yan ang alam ko

staycool · May 2013

@vhoythoy oo nga po...kay psychoboy po pala yun...sorry... pero nakapag-pamember na po ba kayo?...san po kayo, sa CPA Asutralia din po kayo nagpa-assess??

vhoythoy · May 2013

Plan ko sa melbourne or sydney. Yup 189, pero initial stage palng. Ielts done and right now waiting for vetassess assessment. Wrong move nga eh dapat nag cpaa nlang ako or icaa para mas mabilis. Pero lets see. Ikaw san stage ka nba and which state mo balak

jcal149 · May 2013

@lock_code2004 and @vhoythoy salamat po sa response. Akala ko dalawang beses pa ako kukuha ng IELTS eh, yung isa nga lang mahirap na. Not to mention na magastos pa.

Thanks @psychoboy !

All the best sa ating lahat na mag-start pa lang ng application. Drop by ako lagi dito para mag-share ng updates baka makatulong

staycool · May 2013

@vhoythoy Accountant din po ba kayo?...sang vetassess?... ako po kse CPA Australia... i have been allocated a CO already, done with my medicals just 2 weeks ago... and now, I dunno, haven't heard from my CO pa...

I opted for VISA 190, through NSW State Sponsorship po... are u in singapore right now?..you mentioned na may mga pinoy there na kinuha na ang CPA Program ng Australia... is that allowed?...eh paano ang exam?

TasBurrfoot · May 2013

you mentioned na may mga pinoy there na kinuha na ang CPA Program ng Australia... is that allowed?...eh paano ang exam?

@staycool - pwede po ito... practically anywhere in the world naman pwede magtake ng exams, like sa singapore for instance meron talaga office ang cpa australia doon kaya walang problema. in other countries na probably wala sila office, they usually hire someone to administer the test locally so wala din problema.

ang mga materials naman ipapadala ito via DHL or similar courier...

hope this helps!!

TasBurrfoot · May 2013

@staycool - yes nagbayad ang wife ko in order to activate her membership and become a member. her plan kasi is to sit in the exams and become a member in a few years.

vhoythoy · May 2013

@vhoythoy Accountant din po ba kayo?...sang vetassess?... ako po kse CPA Australia... i have been allocated a CO already, done with my medicals just 2 weeks ago... and now, I dunno, haven't heard from my CO pa...

I opted for VISA 190, through NSW State Sponsorship po... are u in singapore right now?..you mentioned na may mga pinoy there na kinuha na ang CPA Program ng Australia... is that allowed?...eh paano ang exam?

Nice patapos ka na ako matagal tagal pa. Vetassess kasi internal audit work ko ngayun but accountants din work ko dati and independent auditor. Yup pwede dito may testing center dito sa Sg. Based on what i've heard is pwede mo dalhin yun binder or notes mo during the exams kasi open book sya. Not so hard daw basta aral syempre. Pero check mo enrollment period may timing din kasi ang exams. Yun nga lang medyo costly pro reconised nman sya sa australia even dito sa SG and MY as compared sa cpa ntin sa pinas. Good thing din is malaki membership nya and may mutual agreements cpaa sa CIMA uk and sa CGA canada yata so yun ok sya if may balak ka lumipat someday. CPA australia is more on designation intended sa accountanta working in commercial/ private firms while CA is more on audit firms. Ang maganda nman sa CA is parang post graduate studies ang classification nya, recgnised by GAA and AiCpa of US. Cpa is mostly multiple choices while CA is essay. So yan may choices ka na goodluck

kl_337 · May 2013

Hello all, question lang po I know po kasi na marami ang nagka issue ditto regarding the accounting theory subject. I fear po na baka ma encounter ko rin kasi wala sa syllabus naming, as per our dean incorporated na daw po kasi yun sa Financial Accounting naming. kung sakali po I-consider ba nila yung result ng CPA Board Exam ko? kasi Makita naman doon ang result per subject.

TasBurrfoot · May 2013

Hello all, question lang po I know po kasi na marami ang nagka issue ditto regarding the accounting theory subject. I fear po na baka ma encounter ko rin kasi wala sa syllabus naming, as per our dean incorporated na daw po kasi yun sa Financial Accounting naming. kung sakali po I-consider ba nila yung result ng CPA Board Exam ko? kasi Makita naman doon ang result per subject.

#1 You can probably try that...

#2 Or you can make a tabular listing of the subjects contained in accounting theory (also known as accounting concepts and principles) and match it with the particular accounting course you have undertaken you think is closely similar to what CPAA is looking.

My wife did the above and it was okey naman; I agree with you that accounting theory is incorporated in a couple of subjects so we just submitted an additional document to show #2.

Hope this helps!! I know CPAA Accounting Theory can be a pain in the backside but you just have to help convince then that pwede yung degree mo.

lonelygirl · May 2013

hello @psychoboy, this is my first post and I am still preparing my documents and waiting for the result of my ielts. I am planning na to resign from my current work and focus na lang on my small business while waiting for the result of my cpaa assessment and visa. Ang question ko lang is may possibility ba na maging unsuitable ako if at the time of assessment wala na ako work? I already have 8 years working experience (2 years as internal audit and 6 years as accountant).

and another question is since I have a small business, pwede ko din ba isama yung mga business docs ko to prove that I am a business owner and I will just prepare na lang statutory declaration regarding the accounting work I am doing?

TasBurrfoot · May 2013

hello @psychoboy, this is my first post and I am still preparing my documents and waiting for the result of my ielts. I am planning na to resign from my current work and focus na lang on my small business while waiting for the result of my cpaa assessment and visa. Ang question ko lang is may possibility ba na maging unsuitable ako if at the time of assessment wala na ako work? I already have 8 years working experience (2 years as internal audit and 6 years as accountant).

and another question is since I have a small business, pwede ko din ba isama yung mga business docs ko to prove that I am a business owner and I will just prepare na lang statutory declaration regarding the accounting work I am doing?

@lonelygirl - first of all, goodluck in your decision to quit work while working on your papers...

they will not take it against you that you will get unsuitable assessment if you are not engaged in a full time corporate work. in fact corporate work has nothing to do with assessment as the latter only takes into account what you have studied previously in college to determine whether papasa yun sa standard ng accounting bodies in australia (i.e CPAA, etc...)

i dunno how you can include business ownership as part of your work experience; search for this nalang in the assessing body you are interested in engaging. they should have details for this.

goodluck!!

staycool · May 2013

@psychoboy if only i was aware that we can get the CPA program, I should have taken it YEARS AGO...almost mag-e-expire na po ang vetassess ko, mag-5 years na next year...sana kumuha nalang ako para at least nag-e-exam na ako ngayon...tsk, tsk...kung mag-e-expire po ba ang chance of being a member and haven't paid the membership fee yet, will that expire automatically and I need to have to reassess again in order to be a member?

TasBurrfoot · May 2013

@psychoboy if only i was aware that we can get the CPA program, I should have taken it YEARS AGO...almost mag-e-expire na po ang vetassess ko, mag-5 years na next year...sana kumuha nalang ako para at least nag-e-exam na ako ngayon...tsk, tsk...kung mag-e-expire po ba ang chance of being a member and haven't paid the membership fee yet, will that expire automatically and I need to have to reassess again in order to be a member?

I don't quiet get it... You mentioned CPA program but you have taken vetassess? CPA and VETASSESS are 2 different entities.

As far as I know (in CPA Australia), migration assessment is a different procedure from membership assessment. In my wife's case, she paid separately for both assessment. Not with respect to her membership assessment expiring if the membership was not activated, I am not entirely sure on this...

staycool · May 2013

@psychoboy if only i was aware that we can get the CPA program, I should have taken it YEARS AGO...almost mag-e-expire na po ang vetassess ko, mag-5 years na next year...sana kumuha nalang ako para at least nag-e-exam na ako ngayon...tsk, tsk...kung mag-e-expire po ba ang chance of being a member and haven't paid the membership fee yet, will that expire automatically and I need to have to reassess again in order to be a member?
I don't quiet get it... You mentioned CPA program but you have taken vetassess? CPA and VETASSESS are 2 different entities.

As far as I know (in CPA Australia), migration assessment is a different procedure from membership assessment. In my wife's case, she paid separately for both assessment. Not with respect to her membership assessment expiring if the membership was not activated, I am not entirely sure on this...

is it not that when we have our vetasses (profession assessment), it gives us the chance to be a member as long as we pay the membership fee? like in my case, CPA Australia po ako nagpa-assess ng profession ko, is that different from having CPA Autralia assess you for "migration" purpose from assessment as to being a member?

And kung member na po kayo sa CPA Australia, then you can take/enroll for the CPA Program?...

vhoythoy · May 2013

Pasingit medyo nalito din ako hahaha. Sa vetassess ako nagpaassess for internal audit but im not sure kung professional organisation sila and needs membership fees. I only transact with then for this skill migration assessment purposes.

For cpa australia, you need to pay separately for migration assessment and for annual membership fees. Iba pa yung bayad sa exams kung mag pursue ka ng cpa certifications. Para ma maintain mo yung good standings mo sa cpaa you need to pay your annual dues similar to other organisations such as picpa, iia, isaca. Yung bayad sa cpaa for migration purposes i think one time basis lang yan

staycool · May 2013

@vhoythoy and @psychoboy okay, nakuha ko na po ang tungkol sa payment... kung ganun po, kung interesado ako maging CPA sa australia, i need to enroll for the CPA Program of CPA Australia, ayt?...does that mean I need CPA Australia to assess my qualifications again? And di po ba in order to enrol for the CPA Program offered by CPA Australia, you need to be a member, an Associate member for the meantime, (meaning, paying dues ... and being re-assessed again, which is different from being assessed for migration purpose (?))

So after po dapat ng asseesment sa akin 5 years ago, hindi ako agad agad pwedeng kumuha ng CPA Program dito sa Pinas or pwede po sana?...

staycool · May 2013

eto nalang po, paano po maging CPA sa Australia?...kse po tayong mga CPAs dito sa Pinas hindi totally CPAs ng Australia, ayt?...as my agent told me, we are only "Associate" members palang...when we complete the CPA Program and take all the exams and pass it, then we become CPA of Australia... as @Psychoboy mentioned, yung mga taga-SG kumukuha na ng CPA Program doon kse it is being offered there...pwede bang kumuha lang kahit hindi member ng CPA Australia?...kumbaga, independently kukuha at mag-e-enrol ka lang sa CPA Program to be an Australian CPA?...

pasensya, medyo naguguluhan ang pag-understand ko ata eh...

TasBurrfoot · May 2013

ok ganito po maam @staycool:

first things first... kung gusto mo maging full member sa CPA Australia, eto po yung mga steps:

1. Get membership assessment; submit docs (including syllabus) as indicates sa website. TAKE NOTE THAT THIS IS DIFFERENT SA MIGRATION ASSESSMENT.

2. If ok lahat, pwede ka na magpa-activate ng membership mo and become an associate member. If they are not satisfied with your education, they will mention naman what are your deficiencies and kailangan mo mag exam for this.

3. After you activated your membership, pwede ka na mag-enrol and study for the what they call the professional level papers. You need to pass 4 core subjects and 2 elective subjects.

4. Meanwhile you can work on your professsion experience; if gaya mo may experience na, pwede mi ipa-assess ito and gain credit for it. More details c/o google on this.

5. If ok ka na sa lahat ng requirement, congrats CPA Australia full member ka na.

Hope this helps!

vhoythoy · May 2013

Nope. You cannot be automatically become associate of cpa australia kahit cpa kana sa pinas. You are required na mag member at magpasa ng assesment sa knila to check kung qualified ka to be an associate. Dun kasi malalaman kung nasan stage ka na like need mo pa ba mag foundation courses or diretso na professional route. Then my mga series of exams yan and other requirements before maging cpa australia.

Yung mga officemates ko na nag take dito sa Singapore for CpA australia, tapos na sila magpaasses and got their associate designation which is "ASA" yata. Kumbaga di pwede magtake ng exams agad agad prior to assessment and being a member of CPAA

vhoythoy · May 2013

In addition, alam ko for professional level, maximum of 2 modules lng pwede mo take a year kaya aabot yan ng mga 3 years to complete. Ang main consideration din jan is cost kasi medyo masakit din sa bulsa ung membership dues and exam fees.

TasBurrfoot · May 2013

In addition, alam ko for professional level, maximum of 2 modules lng pwede mo take a year kaya aabot yan ng mga 3 years to complete. Ang main consideration din jan is cost kasi medyo masakit din sa bulsa ung membership dues and exam fees.

Sorry but I don't quiet agree with your statement above @vhoythoy; as far as I know, wala naman sinabi ang CPAA na maximum of 2 module lang ang pwede i-take in a year. Ang sinasabi lang nila is that they recommend 1 subject per semester so that makes it 2 in a yr and 3 yrs to complete.

vhoythoy · May 2013

Sorry but I don't quiet agree with your statement above @vhoythoy; as far as I know, wala naman sinabi ang CPAA na maximum of 2 module lang ang pwede i-take in a year. Ang sinasabi lang nila is that they recommend 1 subject per semester so that makes it 2 in a yr and 3 yrs to complete.

My mistake. Medyo na confused ako sa statements na yun sa website ng CPAA

staycool · May 2013

mga sir @psychoboy and @vhoytoy, so in conclusion, yung VETASSESS ko ng CPA Australia does not give me the opportunity to be an automatic Associate member pala ones i paid the membership fee?...yung expiration after 5 years from assessment (in my case na before 2012 nagpa-assess) is only for my "migration" purpose lang pala...all the while i thought ang vetassess sa migration is already the assessment to be an automatic associate member...sad...

thank you very much for the information...naliwanagan na po ako...so kahit mag-expire next year ang assessment ko for "migration" walang kinalaman sa pagpapaassess ko dapat sa pag-apply being an associate member...

dito po sa Pinas wala po kseng CPA Australia office, so dapat po magtransact directly sa Australia para makapag-enrol kung interesado po ako maging CPA ng Australia, ganun po ba yun?

mahaba habang proseso pa pala to and matagal tagal and MAHAL...dapat AUD na ang earnings to afford this kind of studies...tsk, tsk....

maraming maraming salamat po sa information you both...

staycool · May 2013

pwede pong isa pang question?...kung nakapag-assess na po ulit for being an Associate member and paid the membership fees and all, may cut off time po ba yun para kumuha ng CPA program?...

TasBurrfoot · May 2013

pwede pong isa pang question?...kung nakapag-assess na po ulit for being an Associate member and paid the membership fees and all, may cut off time po ba yun para kumuha ng CPA program?...

Everything is actually all in the CPA website...

Anyway, to answer you: 6 years to complete all requirements.

lock_code2004 · May 2013

@staycool - i think the confusion was because you are using the word "VETASSESS"...

correct me if im wrong, if you had your skills assessment from CPAA, then you have a CPAA skills assessment. and not VETASSESS skills assessment....

TasBurrfoot · May 2013

@staycool - i think the confusion was because you are using the word "VETASSESS"...

correct me if im wrong, if you had your skills assessment from CPAA, then you have a CPAA skills assessment. and not VETASSESS skills assessment....

EXACTLY...

VETASSESS and CPAA are 2 different creatures.

Then again, the assessment of @staycool was done some yrs back so it might have been a different process from what we know today.