Adding Secondary Applicants (Married/De-Facto/Engaged)

TasBurrfoot · March 2013

Question lang po. When we lodge our application our status is still engaged but right now we are already married. Is it okay if we just provide our marriage certificate and submit form 1022 for our evidence of relationship or do i still need to provide those requirements stated in the de facto relationship? In our case we are not living together, we dont have joint accounts yet but we have been in relationship for more than 5yrs already. Kindly advise

if you already have a CO, inform the person immediately and he/she can advise what needs to be done on your end...

i reckon you would need to provide form 1022 and evidence of your new marriage.

dakz · March 2013

@psychoboy instead of providing the necessary de facto rqrmnts ung marriage cert at form 1022 ung binigay qng form to my CO. kaya lng d pa ngrereply. Hihintayin ko nlng ung feedback nya. Salamat po.

lock_code2004 · March 2013

@dakz - tama, submit your marriage cert, form of change in circumstance...
then inform your CO.. congratulations on your wedding and goodluck on the visa..!!

dakz · March 2013

@lock_code2004 thanks po. sana mai positive feedback na by next week

nfronda · March 2013

@dakz were on the same case, after ng kasal namin enemail q lg ung case officer q ng form1022. Den after that she asked some documents of my husband. As you are recently married, probably ur case officer will asked your joint statement just to prove how genuine ur relationship is.. Ung iba kasi gnagamit lg ung pgpapaksal pra masama OZ.. Kaya samin eventhough married na kmi hndi sapat na katibayan ang marriage certificate.. Humingi pa rin ng joint statement, kng nkalagay dun ang pictures namin together with captions and date, ung mga chats history.. So much better prepare ka din nito just incase humingi ung case officer m.. Were not living together din, and no joint account sa banko.. Ang proof lg namin is ung mga pics namin ang chat history sa skype, sa txt at sa fb.. Kaya na include ung husband q at na approve visa naming dalawa.

lock_code2004 · March 2013

@nfronda - thanks for sharing..
so ung initial application mo "engaged" status ba ang nilagay mo?
tpos si fiancee ang secondary applicant? then nagpakasal kayo while processing the visa?

dakz · March 2013

@nfronda ngayon ko lng napansin comment mo. Same nga tayo ng circumstances. At tama ka nga hiningan kami ng proof. I provided photos ung mga travels n vacation nmin together ksama na ung mga plane n hotel bookings, tapos ung chat n email logs kahit hindi english yon. Mabuti naman at tinanggap ni co at na visa grant din kami

nfronda · March 2013

@lock_code2004..hindi poh..nung nag apply aq ng visa single ung nilagay q.. den ngkamali aq sa pag estimate ng visa grant q..akala q ksi by december ma approve na ung visa q..kaya nag plan kmi na january ung kasal.. den ung plan q sa knya ay aplyan xa ng spouse visa.. kya kinabahan aq nang malapt na ang kasal namin wla pang balita sa visa q.. Pro nsabi q sa sarili q, c Lord na ang bahala, everything happen 4 a reason.. kaya yan ang nangyari.. pgktpos ng kasal nmin ngka co aq.. den sana at dat tym ma approve na ung visa q.. den nag submit aq ng form1022 which is nsabi ng co na, dahil married kna hndi pa pwdeng ma finalize ung visa m..instead pwde natin ma include ung husband m.. which is really gud pra samin.. kaya ayun, humingi lg ng mga documents sg husband q..ng na complete na, visa grant kaagad.. Which is God is really gud tlaga.. nd na aq gumastos sa spouse visa nya..

nfronda · March 2013

@dakz.. Ung sa iyo nga, engaged na status m pag apply m.. sakin nga single ung status q.. kaya nasabi q sa sarili parang swerte ng kasal namin..at nakasama pa xa sa application q..

Btw, congrats pala..kylan lg na grant visa m??

lock_code2004 · March 2013

@nfronda - great.. in his timing talaga..
congrats..

dakz · March 2013

@nfronda thanks. kahapon lng na grant

nfronda · March 2013

@dakz..wow that's nice.. so welcome to Australia..:) @lock_code2004..Kaya nga ehh, if it yours it's yours nga talaga..wlang sinu mn ang pwdeng umagaw..:) Btw, thanks..

legato09 · May 2013

@optic - you can just use any normal paper.. the persons who provided statements for us just signed it, then we attahed their passport/IDs.. that's it.. we actually never sent it to notary/lawyer.. this is just based on my experience... i guess this one is fine, because we got our visa..

The formal stat dec format is only if you are AU , it will be affidavit in most countries..
so if you want, you can create an affidavit, you can use normal paper, isama mo ang magsign sa harap ng lawyer.. and then have it legalized by the lawyer/notary..

Now, each lawyer/notary office has their own format, so ang isa sa mga suggestion dito sa SG daw, eh magdala ka ng usb na meron copy ng statement, ibigay sa lawyer/notary office para sila magcopy paste ng mga statements.. or humingi ka ng format nila..

Tip* - make sure na blue pen ang pang sign nila, para pag scan mo (colored) at submit mo as proof/attachment sa application online, eh makita na original ang signature..

@Bossing confirm ko lang yung passport/IDs nung gumawa nung statement, di naman po kailangan na certified true copy yung passport/IDs nila?

Need pa din po ba nung address and phone number nung gumawa nung statement?

joestrummer · May 2013

Mga idol,

Nung nagpakasal kayo did you just use the maiden name ni misis niyo? Hindi pa kasi lumalabas yung nso certified copy nung marriage certificate namin kaya di pa malakad ni misis yung pagpalit ng apelyido niya. Ok lang ba ito gamitin sa paglodge? Baka kasi abutin pa ng months at abroad kasi kami nagpakasal kaya matagal pa bago dumating yung report of marriage at matagal din daw yung processing sa nso.

Sa ngayon kasi ang desisyon ko is i-go na with the same information as her current passport. Ang gusto ko na lang malaman is paano aayusin in case magpalit na siya in different stages from invitation to visa approval.

Maraming salamat!

lock_code2004 · May 2013

@Bossing confirm ko lang yung passport/IDs nung gumawa nung statement, di naman po kailangan na certified true copy yung passport/IDs nila?

Need pa din po ba nung address and phone number nung gumawa nung statement?

yung sa akin hindi ko na pina CTC ung mga passport and IDs nila..
pero wala naman masama kung ipa CTC mo din..

lock_code2004 · May 2013

Mga idol,

Nung nagpakasal kayo did you just use the maiden name ni misis niyo? Hindi pa kasi lumalabas yung nso certified copy nung marriage certificate namin kaya di pa malakad ni misis yung pagpalit ng apelyido niya. Ok lang ba ito gamitin sa paglodge? Baka kasi abutin pa ng months at abroad kasi kami nagpakasal kaya matagal pa bago dumating yung report of marriage at matagal din daw yung processing sa nso.

Sa ngayon kasi ang desisyon ko is i-go na with the same information as her current passport. Ang gusto ko na lang malaman is paano aayusin in case magpalit na siya in different stages from invitation to visa approval.

Maraming salamat!

yes, proceed with the application, kahit using her maiden name..
sayang ang panahon..

once dumating na ang new passport, there is a form you can use to change passport details..
fill-up the form 929 and email to your CO..

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The following forms are useful for notifying the department of changes in circumstances and
are available on the department's website at www.immi.gov.au/allforms or at any of our offices:
● Form 929 Change of address and/or passport details
● Form 1022 Notification of changes in circumstances
● Form 1023 Notification of incorrect answer(s)
● Form 1193 Communicating by e-mail with the department.
----------------------------------------------

legato09 · May 2013

@Bossing confirm ko lang yung passport/IDs nung gumawa nung statement, di naman po kailangan na certified true copy yung passport/IDs nila?

Need pa din po ba nung address and phone number nung gumawa nung statement?
yung sa akin hindi ko na pina CTC ung mga passport and IDs nila..
pero wala naman masama kung ipa CTC mo din..

noted Bossing, Maraming Salamat.

joestrummer · May 2013

@lock_code2004,

Maraming salamat idol! You are the man. hehe! Ay by the way, any idea naman if for example nakakuha si misis ng visa with her maiden name as in visa approved with IED and stuff and along the way naayos namin yung documents niya for changing the surname to mine. Kelangan pa ba ipabago yun? Anyway it's a long way to go pa naman, just want to know kung may alam kayo na nakaexperience nito. Salamat uli! :-)

lock_code2004 · May 2013

@joestrummer - just remember this..
- kung anu ang passport na nasa application at na-approved na visa grant, yun dapat ang passport nyo sa pag travel..
- kung nagpalit kayo ng passport (new passport, change surname), you need to inform DIAC always, para walang hassle sa travel..

marami po namang countries/nationalities ang hindi nagpapalit ng surname ang mga married female, so walang kaso un... just be sure sa reminder above..

joestrummer · May 2013

@lock_code2004

Aprub idol. Maraming salamat uli!

legato09 · May 2013

Tanong ko na din dito since napag usapan ang passport hehehehe...

Nung nagpa assess ako sa ACS and Application kay NSW old passport ko gamit ko, then ngayon pong mag lodge na ako ng Visa meron na ako bagong passport.... idedeclare ko pa po ba yung luma or yung bago nalang? Meron kasi dun "current" passport though my understanding isa lang ang current passport ko dahil since lumabas na yung bagong passport ko wala ng bisa ang old passport ko kahit pa sa august pa ang expiration nya?

lock_code2004 · May 2013

@legato09 - if i may suggest, pwede mo na gamitin ang new passport mo... pero ilagay mo pa din ang old passport number mo..
kasi baka magrefer sila sa mga application (ACS at NSW SS) mo using old passport number..

legato09 · May 2013

@legato09 - if i may suggest, pwede mo na gamitin ang new passport mo... pero ilagay mo pa din ang old passport number mo..
kasi baka magrefer sila sa mga application (ACS at NSW SS) mo using old passport number..

Thanks @Bossing.

Yung old ko po kasi, 2007-2012 then na iextend ko po ng 2012-13. kapag ilalagay ko yung start and end date ng old passport ko magiging 6.5years or ilagay ko na lang:

Passport1: 2007-2012
Passport2: 2012-2013
Passport3: 2013-2018

engrjamescastro · May 2013

i just want to contribute sa thread na to:

naglodge ako ng application for 189 with my fiancé as my secondary applicant. ang prinovide ko na proof of relationship are the following:
1. marriage license
2. airline ticket when we travel together
3. fb messages
4. fb pictures showing dates and comments

and thank God

raiden14 · July 2013

following

lock_code2004 · July 2013

@rachelle_gan2 - read from page 1.

http://www.pinoyau.info/discussion/828/adding-secondary-applicants-marriedde-factoengaged/p1

happyinmelbourne34 · July 2013

Hello Everyone, in reference to the above topic,

Ask ko lang po pano gumawa ng proof of relationship. Paki share naman ng experience at saka sample.. As in malaking help po talaga. Thank you

@rachelle gan, nung nag apply po kami ng de facto sinunod lang po nmin ung checklist http://www.immi.gov.au/migrants/_pdf/309-100-checklist.pdf,
fr DIAC website eto po ung mga sibumit nmin na docs

1. knowledge of each other's personal circumstances - written statement from us detailing kung pano at san kami nag meet, then explaining our situation on why my mga instances na need nmin maghiwalay, then chat logs, pictures

2. financial aspects of the relationship, joint financial commitments such as real estate or other assets and sharing day-to-day household expenses 0- rent receipts n andun ung pangalan nming 2, then my bank statement showing money transfer fr his paypal account to my account, then ung australian super ko na nakalagay sya as one of the beneficiary

3. the nature of the household, including living arrangements and joint care and responsibility for any children of the relationship - ung tenancy agreement nmin both SG and here na nakapangalan sa ming 2
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4. the social aspects of the relationship, provided in statements (statutory declarations) by friends and acquaintances - pinag fillup nmin ung kaibgan nmin sa SG ng form 888, then ung kmaganak nya dto ng form 888 din , some pics dn na kasama mga common friends

5. the nature of the commitment, including duration of the relationship, how long the couple has been living together and whether they see the relationship as a long-term one. - written statement lang galing sa ming 2 kung ano mga plano nmin sa future ex. eventually magpakasal then magka bahay dto then raise a family.

TasBurrfoot · July 2013

up

rachelle_gan2 · July 2013

Thank you sa lahat ng sumagot.

what about ung sa mga photos. pano po e present?

lock_code2004 · July 2013

@rachelle_gan2
- pwede mo sya isunod dun sa personal statement nyo
- scan the pictures lagyan mo ng note; date ng picture, event/special ocassion and where...
- mas okay kung may ksama kayong family and friends sa pictures, lalo na yung mga mag tetestify sa relationship nyo (No. 4 dun sa requirements na post ni @happyinmelbourne34 )