How long did it take you to get a job?

stolich18 · June 2013

Wow Congrats Glaiza!!! I'm so happy for you! Habang binabasa ko post mo, nakkarelate ako.

1) Sabi ng mga taga-dito, wag daw muna tlga maging mapili sa work. Naghhanap din ako ngayon ng mga casual/part-time jobs while waiting for a job posting related to my actual core competency.
2) Yes, build a lot of networks with friends and recruiters.

May mga nakakausap akong recruiters via linkedin. It's just that right now tlgang wala pang mga job posting sa skillset ko. May mga connections ang mga recruiters and sometimes parating pa lang sa pipeline, alam na nila. Kaya very important to build a relationship with them. ANd yes, referrals would help.
3) Yang online job opportunity na yan muntik na rin ako mabiktima. Nagsearch ako sa google about the company and found out an aussie forum that says fraud nga sya... It involves wire transfers to fulfill some money laundering acts.. Good thing mababait mga tao dito sa Australia

One thing I also learned, have an Aussie local review your CV format. I was so wrong with this, I'm so confident na kase with my CV. hehehe

oh well I don't have work yet but believing God that greater things are yet to come. In the mean time, press on towards the goal muna ako.

Thanks for sharing your story, very inspiring!!! Indeed God blessed the desires of your heart. So happy for you!

stolich18 · June 2013

Just to add lang din, I'm also getting a lot of rejection e-mails. hehehee

By the way, a recruiter met up with me yesterday. She asked me all the companies I've applied for so far. Actually sabi nya kase marami na raw inooutsource na SAP IT jobs ngayon sa Asia (like probably support). She was actually selling my skills with an FMCG company, kaso lang naghire sila ng internal candidate. Pero they will let her know daw after 6 weeks if they still need another candidate for that role. Tapos she said she's meeting with another company (beverage) to check what's in the pipeline. She's so nice to take some time interviewing me and getting my qualifications.

Tapos there was also another recruiter who added me in linkedin. wala pang posting but he already requested for my CV. and then there's this another recruiter who helped me get an interview via phone from the Phils. Too bad they said I was too senior for the role.. hehehe

Another advise ng mga taga-dito is to get certified or take some courses.

glaiza1210 · June 2013

@glaiza1210 - wow.. congratulations... tuloy tuloy na yan..
kung anu man pinagdaanan mo.. that made you stronger..
nakausnod na ba family mo dyan?

thanks @lock_code2004 , tama ka it made me stronger. Sa august pa susunod yung mag ama ko

jengrata · June 2013

@stolich18 SAP ka rin pala. SAP basis ba? If yes, i wonder why Software Engineer ang code mo.

Pansin ko lng parang ang laging feedback ng mga recruitment eh overqualified. Di kaya strategy lang to para di ka magask ng malaki? Kasi for me mas ok ang overqualified kesa underqualified.

stolich18 · June 2013

@jengrata. Yup SAP. Di ako SAP Basis, SAP PI middleware ako. Software Engineer inapply ko kase dun ung pinakamaraming pasok na tasks/job responsibilities sa mga ANZSCO code na nabasa ko. hehehe

Actually ang nagfeedback skn na overqualified eh ung mismong manager ng company na inapplyan ko. Ung naginterview skn, isang Technical lead (magmmove na kase sya to Basis) and yung pinaka-manager. NSW Education pala gumagamit ng SAP. hehehe

hmm in a sense yup ok maging overqualified para mas madaling idowngrade ang qualifications. hehehe i felt lang nung interview na their perception was hindi ako masyadong hands-on sa role ko dahil lead position na un, siguro dapat mas inexplain ko pa na nagttroubleshoot pa rin ako.

SAP Basis ka ba?

icebreaker1928 · June 2013

@glaiza1210 sir, parang nabasa ko yang scam na yan kaya lang hindi ko maintindihan kung pano nangyayari..

kung ok lang na paki-explain, para mawarningan na rin ang iba. tia

jengrata · June 2013

@stolich18 ah. Actually, ung hubby ko ang SAP Basis. Ako naman po eh Oracle Developer.

Cguro mas gusto tlga nila ung hands-on and mas focus sa technical roles kesa sa management skills. Yung overqualified ba eh kasama ung years of experience dun? Kasi 10years na kami pareho eh.

stolich18 · June 2013

@jengrata yeah pdeng sa number of experience din. Sa pagkakapresent din cguro ng resume. Sa tin kase sa pinas, kahit high level position ka na, naghhands on ka pa rin naman tlga from time to time. hehehe dito kase pag nakita nila yun, isip nila hindi mo gusto magtagal sa company and you'll eventually leave them kaya kelangan tlga itailor fit ung CV.

Hindi naman tlga ako manager sa atin but siguro nakita kase nila nagddesign na ako ng solutions end-to-end kaya bka inakala na hindi na ako nagttroubleshoot. Support role kase un, so tlgang taga-monitor ng system and sa operations. Ung background ko naman parehong support and project development... depende siguro tlga sa hinihingi ng role

Nightdriver09 · June 2013

1 month na ako. May tumatawag naman na recruiters pero either mababa ang offer or sobrang layo ng location..

TasBurrfoot · June 2013

1 month na ako. May tumatawag naman na recruiters pero either mababa ang offer or sobrang layo ng location..

Err, mababa ang offer meaning you were offered a job already @Nightdriver09?

killerbee · June 2013

after ko basahin yung mga latest postings d2, nagdadalawang isip tuloy ako ngayon kasi may nag-offer sa akin. i am planning to continue looking sana at ireject yung offer. software engineer din naman pero hindi masyadong gamit yung Java na pinakamain skillset ko. sobrang mababa talaga yung offer at mas mataas pa nga yung sweldo ko sa singapore tapos halos 2 hour na byahe pa ngaun sa tinitirhan ko, tapos hindi fix yung working hours nila. not really sure kung ano irereply ko dun sa job offer, tatanggapin ko ba o hindi. 1 week na din ako d2 sa melbourne kahapon.. ano sa tingin nyo guys?

Nightdriver09 · June 2013

1 month na ako. May tumatawag naman na recruiters pero either mababa ang offer or sobrang layo ng location..
Err, mababa ang offer meaning you were offered a job already @Nightdriver09?

Ibig sabihin ko po mababa yung sinasabi ng recruiter.

jengrata · June 2013

@stolich18 ah. Cguro nga. May pattern daw ba ng CV ang australia? Sample naman jan! Hehehe

@killerbee hmmm. Depende tlga sayo ang desisyon. Go with your instinct. Ask for signs kay Lord. But if i were you, i will accept it. Kasi nagsisimula k p lng naman. Especially, wala kang local experience jan. Sometimes it matters to some company. I remember i started here sa SG na mababa ang salary compared sa mga kalevel ko ng experience. I was underpaid. But then i showed them my worth so after my probation period i asked for a salary increase. Either you'll do the same or pag lumipat ka n ng job, hingi ka n lng ng mas mataas na salary. You will get want you want eventually. But still, the decision is yours, just my two cents worth.

staycool · June 2013

@killerbee , makiki-comment po... why not try accepting the job to gain experience lang?...malay nyo po magustuhan nyo and eventually gawin kayong regular and offer higher pay...then eventually, you might want to transfer places for easier access.... just a thought po...

stolich18 · June 2013

@icebreaker gawa kaya ako separate thread to warn our fellow folks... eto kase ung email na nareceive, looks promising at first (iba lang name ng "company"):

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/2051882

Hello,

Cameron Trade, a luxury goods company, has seen your e-mail over one of the online recruiting agencies where you were listed as a jobseeker.

Therefore, we are happy to offer you a unique chance of working for our company as administrative assistants/sales support representatives in Australia to work from home, to contribute to the sales force and add convenience to our service dedicated to individuals, businesses, and organizations in Eastern Europe, Asia and United States.

This position focuses on the direction of daily, weekly and every month tasks and special projects pertaining to the sales support for deals held within Australia.

Position Tasks include:
+ Providing general administrative support including drafting of correspondence, processing purchase orders and expense reports etc.
+ Emailing correspondence on every day basis
+ Assisting Company's Sales Department in a support role performing special projects, data entry and other tasks as assigned
+ Maintaining tracking spreadsheet for all purchases and payments completed

stolich18 · June 2013

@killerbee kunin mo na yan.

Pag nakita nila na mahusay ka, iaadjust naman sweldo mo, or at least may local experience ka na.

Mahirap makahanap ng trabaho ngayon na ganyang kabilis at in line pa sa core skills mo:)

stolich18 · June 2013

@killerbee you can move to a near location anyway if you like, also keep looking for something else while you're on that job

Unless may mga iba ka pang pending promising applications

stolich18 · June 2013

@jengrata di ko pa naayos ulet resume ko. hehehe kay @RodganteJr po tayo manghingi ng sample.. heheh

anong email mo? Forward ko sayo ung knya. hahaha

TasBurrfoot · June 2013

1 month na ako. May tumatawag naman na recruiters pero either mababa ang offer or sobrang layo ng location..
Err, mababa ang offer meaning you were offered a job already @Nightdriver09?
Ibig sabihin ko po mababa yung sinasabi ng recruiter.

Then it is not yet an offer then...

Suggest huwag mamili Sir; just gain experience muna total gusto niyo naman talaga ang Australia diba? Eventually you will earn what you are really worth.

Just my 2 cents lang naman.

killerbee · June 2013

@stolich18 @staycool @jengrata - salamat po sa inputs.

vhoythoy · June 2013

after ko basahin yung mga latest postings d2, nagdadalawang isip tuloy ako ngayon kasi may nag-offer sa akin. i am planning to continue looking sana at ireject yung offer. software engineer din naman pero hindi masyadong gamit yung Java na pinakamain skillset ko. sobrang mababa talaga yung offer at mas mataas pa nga yung sweldo ko sa singapore tapos halos 2 hour na byahe pa ngaun sa tinitirhan ko, tapos hindi fix yung working hours nila. not really sure kung ano irereply ko dun sa job offer, tatanggapin ko ba o hindi. 1 week na din ako d2 sa melbourne kahapon.. ano sa tingin nyo guys?

Get it unless budget is not an issue and you are confident that you can get a better offer soon. You may consider to relocate as 2 hours is too long

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killerbee · June 2013

Get it unless budget is not an issue and you are confident that you can get a better offer soon. You may consider to relocate as 2 hours is too long .

thanks mate.

Gori · June 2013

After the recruiter interview last week via Skype, I was shortlisted for client interview on Friday.
Guys, it is possible to secure an interview while offshore.

I hope this interview on Friday will result to positive outcome.

TasBurrfoot · June 2013

After the recruiter interview last week via Skype, I was shortlisted for client interview on Friday.
Guys, it is possible to secure an interview while offshore.

I hope this interview on Friday will result to positive outcome.

Goodluck!!

lock_code2004 · June 2013

goodluck @Gori.. Gora na!!

stolich18 · June 2013

@Gori pdeng pde, meron ding mga tao dito sa pinoyau na nakakuha ng jobs while they're in another country. Kaya mo yan!

Gori · June 2013

My client interview went well this morning.
At the beginning of the interview they mentioned that the position is for graduate opportunity and is not fit for me since I am experienced but still we proceed with the interview.
I believe I impressed the interviewer and said I am fit for the position but their concern is that I will be starting on a junior level which gave them hesitations.

I'm wondering if I am overqualified for the position why did they shortlist me?

Anyway, I wouldn't be expecting much from this, I will charge it to experience.

TasBurrfoot · June 2013

My client interview went well this morning.
At the beginning of the interview they mentioned that the position is for graduate opportunity and is not fit for me since I am experienced but still we proceed with the interview.
I believe I impressed the interviewer and said I am fit for the position but their concern is that I will be starting on a junior level which gave them hesitations.

I'm wondering if I am overqualified for the position why did they shortlist me?

Anyway, I wouldn't be expecting much from this, I will charge it to experience.

You did well @Gori - and you are right, charge it to experience whatever will happen...

Anyway, just maintain that relationship with your HH; maybe s/he can arrange another interview. You have the advantage now as napansin ka na sa HH mo.

Gori · June 2013

@psychoboy - iniisip ko lang bakit nila ako ni-shortlist kung overqualified naman pala ako. sana hindi na nila ako ni-shortlist

TasBurrfoot · June 2013

@psychoboy - iniisip ko lang bakit nila ako ni-shortlist kung overqualified naman pala ako. sana hindi na nila ako ni-shortlist

Minsan pwede naman kasi eh... Myself and my wife, we are both overqualified in the job we have (my wife will have as she starts next Wednesday), but kinuha pa rin namin just so we can gain those very important local experience.

Ang HH are aware of these kaya you were shortlisted; ang problem lang was that mukhang hesitant ang client.

Consider yourself very luck bud... You got a taste of how an interview for an Aussie employer goes. Many would die to be in your position. I hope you made the most of it and took down notes which can be useful for you in the future.