COE without detailed Job Description and Other Supporting Documents

movingon · July 2013

sa 17 pages form lang pala sya kailangan i fill up kung may trabaho ang dependents pero wala na kailangang attachment. ok salamat ulit @lock_code2004.

kickerz · July 2013

@kickerz - ayos na yan.. basta nasabi mo lahat ng gusto mo sabihin..

marami pong salamat sir, mabuhay po kayo.

kickerz · August 2013

anyone submitted a self-statutory for self-employment?

Electrical_Engr_CDR · September 2013

Pwede rin ho ba mag-attest ng skills ko ay former co-w0rker no longer connected to the company? iaatach ko na lang yung certificate of employment nya. we were working for the same company in the same period.

kickerz · September 2013

actually ganyan ang gagawin ko, wala na akong choice eh.

ito ipapasa ko:
1. Self statutory - na ayaw ng magsenproduce ng coe ng previous employer ko.
2. Stat declaration - of my previous colleague, na previous employee rin ng company na yun.
3. COE ng previous colleague ko sa previous employer namin. Usual COE lang. syempre andun yung dates na tugma sa dates ng nagwork ako dun.

Electrical_Engr_CDR · September 2013

@kickerz
paki update mo na lang kami dito sa developments, nasa stage palang ako pag gawa ng CDR. salamat

IslanderndCity · October 2013

Hello kabayan,
What shall I submit to satisfy Engineers Au's COE requirement? Ito po case ko:
1. I don't want my current boss to know that I'm planning to migrate kasi... (dami reasons)
2. Part po ng career episode ko ang employer na ito.
Help please...

IslanderndCity · October 2013

@mhej -yes, i believe that is enough to satisfy their requriements..
no need for red ribbon/authentication from dfa..

Hello po,
If I will follow @mhej steps 1 and 2, then sa step 3 is hindi na boss ko, instead senior colleague lang, ano po ang magiging steps 4, 5,... & so on?

IslanderndCity · October 2013

Hi All -

I'm wondering if someone can tell me if what I'm planning to do about this Employment Reference will make sense:

1. Get a generic COE from company
2. Create a specific Employment reference (same as template provided by ACS). I am able to get the letterhead and other doc requirements.
3. Get my boss to sign it
4. Get it notarized by a public attorney.

Will this suffice? Is a notarized Employment Reference considered a Statutory Declaration (or Affidavit)?

Do I still need it validated by the city hall or DFA (I heard somewhere someone did this. Called a Red Ribbon document)

Thanks!

Hello po @mhej,
If I will do this po:
1. Secure COE from HR which is expected na generic COE lang
2. Make COE with job details and company letterhead
3. Let a senior colleague sign document in step#2 kasi ayaw kong malaman ni current boss that I'm planning to migrate...

Ano na po magiging next steps nito?

kickerz · October 2013

@IslanderndCity

1. Ok po ito.
2. Ok na po kahit hindi nakalagay sa company letterhead, kasi I believe HR lang po ang nagrerelease ng company letterhead document, baka matuklasan pa ng HR nyo na you printed out the letterhead illegally.
3. Ok po ito. Add na lang po kayo na additional supporting documents. If the senior colleague is still in the company, humingi ka rin ng photocopy ng company ID kung wala na, pa-photocopy mo yung COE nya. Make all this documents certified true copy.

IslanderndCity · October 2013

@kickerz thanks po.
1. Ok po
2. F nagbigay naman ng template iyong department secretary namin with letterhead, ok lang ba ito gamitin?
3. May nabasa ako sa iba about stat declaration? Need pa po ba? Para EA assessment po ito sa'kin

kickerz · October 2013

@IslanderndCity ok lang naman siguro kung nakakuha ka ng template. ah yeah, produce na lang po ng stat declaration stating the job description.

IslanderndCity · October 2013

@kickerz confused po ako (parang si billy crawford, hahaha). Seriously, kailan ba need ang stat dec? F hindi HR ang signatory sa Coe+job details ko?

Other experienced folks, pls enlighten me on this.

IslanderndCity · October 2013

@kickerz confused po ako (parang si billy crawford, hahaha). Seriously, kailan ba need ang stat dec? F hindi HR ang signatory sa Coe+job details ko?

Other experienced folks, pls enlighten me on this. Para sa EA assessment ko po ito

kickerz · October 2013

^haha! ganito po.

1. Kung generic COE lang ang kaya ibigay ng HR. - COE po with job description signed with your colleague saka po Statutory Declaration, same content ng pinirmahan ng colleague mo po.

2. Kung nagprovide ng COE with job description si HR, no need na po for stat declaration.

Basa po kayo sa first page netong thread.

IslanderndCity · October 2013

@lock_code2004 for Engineers Aus assessment, do I need statutory declaration signed by a Senior colleague, by me, and by a lawyer in front of the lawyer dito po sa SG? Or enough na po na signed by a senior colleague iyong gawa kong COE with job details then pa-CTC na lang as u mentioned?

I've received advices from helpful Pinoyau friends dito pero sa other assessing body (ACS, etc) po sila eh, baka iba reqt ni EA.

lock_code2004 · October 2013

@lock_code2004 for Engineers Aus assessment, do I need statutory declaration signed by a Senior colleague, by me, and by a lawyer in front of the lawyer dito po sa SG? Or enough na po na signed by a senior colleague iyong gawa kong COE with job details then pa-CTC na lang as u mentioned?

I've received advices from helpful Pinoyau friends dito pero sa other assessing body (ACS, etc) po sila eh, baka iba reqt ni EA.

wla naman pong specific rule sa EA.. kahit basahin nyo ang EA immigration booklet.
pero para hindi kayo ma-hassle i suggest do it just the same...

my personal opinion, kung hindi nagbigay ang HR, pwde mo ba i-print sa letterhead ng company nyo ang job desc mo, tapos papirmahan mo sa senior colleague mo?
with this, pwede sabihin na officially galing pa rin sa company ang statement, at pwde i verify ng EA sa company mo..

diskarte ka ng papel sa hr.. or be creative.. if you know what i mean.

IslanderndCity · October 2013

@lock_code2004 hehehe. I know what u mean on being creative. Hehe. Opo, pwede naman po makagawa ng COE with job details with company letterhead then papirmahan ng senior colleague (not my immediate superior) then punta sa notary public dito Singapore to produce CTC. So no need na po ng statutory declaration?

lock_code2004 · October 2013

@IslanderndCity - my personal opinion, no need na kung nasa letterhead.. kasi considered official naman un..

sa office kasi namin ka-chokaran ko mga HR.. so naka diskarte ako ng letterhead.. tapos copy paste ko ang job description ko.. at pinapirmahan ko din sa boss ko..
ayos naman.. hehe..

just make sure of course na, pag nagverify ang EA sa HR at sa pipirma na possible silang tawagan ng EA..

IslanderndCity · October 2013

@lock_code2004 ayos pala. Less hassle kasi no need na ng stat dec.. thank u po. God bless u more.

packerx · October 2013

Hmmm. 3 kasing employers ko walang detailed job descriptions. 2 dito sa Singapore at Isa sa Pinas. Bale 4 lahat employers ko, isa lang may detailed job description. Pwede bang isang affidavit lang para sa 3 employers, sama2 nalang? Haha, prob ko din ayoko mag papirma sa boss ko ngaun, kasi baka ano isipin nila. Medyo mahirap2. Not sure kung gaano ka higpit vetasses. Kumpleto naman ako ng corroborating evidences such as payslip, contracts, IRAS cert, etc. Pero dun 2 employers na walang detailed job descriptions, audit firms naman yun at auditor ako, so obvious naman na yun ang work ko. So meron ako ngaun 4 na generic COE in each Company's letterhead, tapos yung isa lang may detailed yun sa SGV, buti pa yun. haayz. submit ko muna tapos bahala na kung manghingi pa ng additional vetasses =(
parang hindi pwede. kasi kung ang ex-boss mo ang pipirma...parang imposible naman na same ang boss mo sa 3 employers na yun? hehe

Unlikely but not impossible na pareho boss mo sa 3 companies

IslanderndCity · October 2013

@lock_code2004 good day po. Clarification lang po, if no company letterhead iyong document ko with job description signed by a senior colleague na hindi ko direct boss, need po ba statutory declaration for EA? Sorry sa tanong, para sure lang po. Thanks again.

lock_code2004 · October 2013

@lock_code2004 good day po. Clarification lang po, if no company letterhead iyong document ko with job description signed by a senior colleague na hindi ko direct boss, need po ba statutory declaration for EA? Sorry sa tanong, para sure lang po. Thanks again.

yes.. yung letterhead makes it official (from your company)..
but if your doc is not in official letterhead, that means who ever signed is making a declaration na totoo ang sinasabi ng document... hence it is required to have a "stat declaration" or "affidavit" (term used in other countries)..

IslanderndCity · October 2013

@lock_code2004 ah, ok. Loud & clear. Hehe. Thanks po. God bless.

IslanderndCity · October 2013

@lock_code2004 tanong in advance just in case lang. Hehe. If I will make a self-statutory declaration stating that my company is providing only generic COE and mentioning that I don't want my immediate boss to know due to (I-enumerate ko reasons ko), of course this is not in official letterhead too, then papirmahan ko na rin sa lawyer here sa Singapore, is this acceptable by EA po?

mpaulin · October 2013

Hi I am a newbie

Would like to ask if using assessment for ACS using current employer will affect? Almost 6 years naman kasi and perfectly fits the Programmer Analyst. Mahirap kasi if I will include the past employers:( I know mag matter sa points but if I will put the other employers on my CV does it affect? Baka marami tanong nila.

Thanks

lock_code2004 · October 2013

Hi I am a newbie Would like to ask if using assessment for ACS using current employer will affect? Almost 6 years naman kasi and perfectly fits the Programmer Analyst. Mahirap kasi if I will include the past employers:( I know mag matter sa points but if I will put the other employers on my CV does it affect? Baka marami tanong nila.

Thanks

medyo hindi po clear ang questions nyo?

IslanderndCity · October 2013

@lock_code2004 tanong in advance just in case lang. Hehe. If I will make a self-statutory declaration stating that my company is providing only generic COE and mentioning that I don't want my immediate boss to know due to (I-enumerate ko reasons ko), of course this is not in official letterhead too, then papirmahan ko na rin sa lawyer here sa Singapore, is this acceptable by EA po?

Acceptable po ito ng EA?

lock_code2004 · October 2013

@IslanderndCity - personally hindi ko alam..
wait tayo baka may naka experience nito.. or try mo ipost sa EA thread..

if ever you'll do this, i think kailaingan mo ng ibang supporting docs like contract/payslip/etc.
to really prove your claim na nagwowork ka dun sa company..

IslanderndCity · October 2013

@lock_code2004
Thanks. Wala naman ako problem for supporting docs like contract, payslip, job offer, etc. Ang sa akin lang ay Self Stat Dec para hindi ko na kailangan si boss sabihan.

Hello everybody, will Engineers Australia accept Self Stat declaration?