Engineers Australia Skills Assessment

engrthea

good day. ask ko lang po kung may chance po ba ako na may 2yrs experience palang saaking profession(ECE) to pass for 189 visa. ?thank you

marvinreds

@Unsullied_06 said:

@marvinreds said:
hi po. ask ko lang po kung pwede po ba ako magpa assessment din ng Civil Engineer na ANZSCO sa engineers australia? positive kaya po? worry kasi ako po na baka di maapprove kasi meron na kong assessment sa Vetassess na Civil Engineer Draftsperson na 8 years positive assessment.

Interested din sana ako sa Civil Engineer kasi graduate naman ako ng BSCE, with PRC license. kaso lang nasa BIM modeling yung experience ko kasi e kaya sa draftsperson muna ako nagpassess. Meron naman ako 1 year experience as structural engineer. Enough na po kaya para ma positive assessment sa EA? Thanks po..

Hello Sir @marvinreds curious lang po bakit magpapaassess pa kayo sa EA? Ilan po points niyo ba pag CE Draftperson yung nominated occupation (NO)? Tama po ba ko iniisip pag nag-CE kayo na NO c/o EA eh wala kayo maclaim na points for work expi? O subukan niyo din paassess?

Hello po, 85 points lang po lahat for 189 sa CE draftsperson nomination kasi asses ng vetassess ay 8 years, puro BIM kasi yung dumating na opportunities sakin dito sa sg po. then subukan ko lang siguro magpaassess din sa EA for CE naman, pero not sure kung full 8 yrs din ibigay. mas maganda and mas demand kasi ung CE kaysa CED po. balak ko po mag file ng 2 eoi na CE and CED.

BSCE din po tinapos niyo?

Unsullied_06

@marvinreds said:

@Unsullied_06 said:

@marvinreds said:
hi po. ask ko lang po kung pwede po ba ako magpa assessment din ng Civil Engineer na ANZSCO sa engineers australia? positive kaya po? worry kasi ako po na baka di maapprove kasi meron na kong assessment sa Vetassess na Civil Engineer Draftsperson na 8 years positive assessment.

Interested din sana ako sa Civil Engineer kasi graduate naman ako ng BSCE, with PRC license. kaso lang nasa BIM modeling yung experience ko kasi e kaya sa draftsperson muna ako nagpassess. Meron naman ako 1 year experience as structural engineer. Enough na po kaya para ma positive assessment sa EA? Thanks po..

Hello Sir @marvinreds curious lang po bakit magpapaassess pa kayo sa EA? Ilan po points niyo ba pag CE Draftperson yung nominated occupation (NO)? Tama po ba ko iniisip pag nag-CE kayo na NO c/o EA eh wala kayo maclaim na points for work expi? O subukan niyo din paassess?

Hello po, 85 points lang po lahat for 189 sa CE draftsperson nomination kasi asses ng vetassess ay 8 years, puro BIM kasi yung dumating na opportunities sakin dito sa sg po. then subukan ko lang siguro magpaassess din sa EA for CE naman, pero not sure kung full 8 yrs din ibigay. mas maganda and mas demand kasi ung CE kaysa CED po. balak ko po mag file ng 2 eoi na CE and CED.

BSCE din po tinapos niyo?

Hello Sir hindi po ako CE haha. IE ako.

ispidprik

@marvinreds said:

@Unsullied_06 said:

@marvinreds said:
hi po. ask ko lang po kung pwede po ba ako magpa assessment din ng Civil Engineer na ANZSCO sa engineers australia? positive kaya po? worry kasi ako po na baka di maapprove kasi meron na kong assessment sa Vetassess na Civil Engineer Draftsperson na 8 years positive assessment.

Interested din sana ako sa Civil Engineer kasi graduate naman ako ng BSCE, with PRC license. kaso lang nasa BIM modeling yung experience ko kasi e kaya sa draftsperson muna ako nagpassess. Meron naman ako 1 year experience as structural engineer. Enough na po kaya para ma positive assessment sa EA? Thanks po..

Hello Sir @marvinreds curious lang po bakit magpapaassess pa kayo sa EA? Ilan po points niyo ba pag CE Draftperson yung nominated occupation (NO)? Tama po ba ko iniisip pag nag-CE kayo na NO c/o EA eh wala kayo maclaim na points for work expi? O subukan niyo din paassess?

Hello po, 85 points lang po lahat for 189 sa CE draftsperson nomination kasi asses ng vetassess ay 8 years, puro BIM kasi yung dumating na opportunities sakin dito sa sg po. then subukan ko lang siguro magpaassess din sa EA for CE naman, pero not sure kung full 8 yrs din ibigay. mas maganda and mas demand kasi ung CE kaysa CED po. balak ko po mag file ng 2 eoi na CE and CED.

BSCE din po tinapos niyo?

Sa EA nman as long academically ma-provide mo un proof na ntpos mo is CE and you can “frame” your exp to satisfy yung mga matrix nila i don’t see any problems. Better read the EA MSA manual several times before deciding. Ndi dn biro kasi sa paggawa ng CDR for EA. I have several exp na gusto ko sana ilagay sa CDR ko before but due to lack of documentation ndi ko nailagay and settled for career episodes which i can support and provide proofs if needed. Goodluck on your journey.

sabina12

Hello po. Mag ask lang po if anyone knows kung magpapahelp po sa Agency regarding creation ng CDR for EA assessment, how much po ang fee? And may reco agency po kayo para dito?
Salamat po

RheaMARN1171933

@sabina12 said:
Hello po. Mag ask lang po if anyone knows kung magpapahelp po sa Agency regarding creation ng CDR for EA assessment, how much po ang fee? And may reco agency po kayo para dito?
Salamat po

Avoid doing this. No one can write your CDR better than yourself. EA is very strict on these things.

ispidprik

@sabina12 said:
Hello po. Mag ask lang po if anyone knows kung magpapahelp po sa Agency regarding creation ng CDR for EA assessment, how much po ang fee? And may reco agency po kayo para dito?
Salamat po

This is a big NO. You don’t know bka ma-plagiarism ka lang and napaka-strict ni EA with regards dito. Better write it yourself and meron nman guide un MSA booklet. Read it a couple of times para mgrasp mo mabuti. Goodluck!

reemon

@sabina12 said:
Hello po. Mag ask lang po if anyone knows kung magpapahelp po sa Agency regarding creation ng CDR for EA assessment, how much po ang fee? And may reco agency po kayo para dito?
Salamat po

Bawal po ito as per MSA booklet. Try niyo nalang gawin on your own kasi may sanction si EA pag nalaman nilang hindi ikaw ang 100% gumawa ng CDR. Simulan niyo po muna yung CDR then you can ask this group if you have questions.

toyotafx

@sabina12 said:
Hello po. Mag ask lang po if anyone knows kung magpapahelp po sa Agency regarding creation ng CDR for EA assessment, how much po ang fee? And may reco agency po kayo para dito?
Salamat po

nobody can stop you if you want to go this route. medyo may inherent risk nga lang. if you get caught, EA will penalize you by not allowing you to get a skills assessment from them for 12 months. i think they will also inform immigration, if i recall correctly.

the benefits are obvious, di ka na magiisip. pros and cons ka na lang.

marvinreds

@toyotafx said:

@sabina12 said:
Hello po. Mag ask lang po if anyone knows kung magpapahelp po sa Agency regarding creation ng CDR for EA assessment, how much po ang fee? And may reco agency po kayo para dito?
Salamat po

nobody can stop you if you want to go this route. medyo may inherent risk nga lang. if you get caught, EA will penalize you by not allowing you to get a skills assessment from them for 12 months. i think they will also inform immigration, if i recall correctly.

the benefits are obvious, di ka na magiisip. pros and cons ka na lang.

hello po, from SG din po pala kayo po. mahirap po ang CDR and EA assessment? nagbabalak kasi po ako na mag EA assessment pero feeling ko din hindi ng lahat ng work experience ko ay ma credit nila, so less points. pero sa inyo po ay yung 75 points ang na grant ng 190?

toyotafx

@marvinreds said:
hello po, from SG din po pala kayo po. mahirap po ang CDR and EA assessment? nagbabalak kasi po ako na mag EA assessment pero feeling ko din hindi ng lahat ng work experience ko ay ma credit nila, so less points. pero sa inyo po ay yung 75 points ang na grant ng 190?

only spent a year sa SG. di naman nagbabawas si EA ng work expi, unlike VETASSESS. if the experience you're claiming is same or at least close to the occupation you're going for, di ka babawasan ng EA.

mabilis lang CDR. kailangan lang pagisipan. pare parehas namang ng structure per CDR:
1. think of an engineering project
2. provide intro to the CDR and what you're trying to explain
3. describe background of project
4. itemize statement of duties - ano ginawa mo sa project
5. org structure nung project team
6. personal engineering activities related to the project. describe your tasks, what you did, and outcome. use CAR format per paragraph, C-context, A-action, R-results. show images/illustrations if possible
7. summarize impact of project

yan yung general framework ko across my CDRs.

yes, 75 points for 190. hindi PMSOL yan.

toyotafx

80 points total pala. SC190 sa NSW. 133512

grin

Hello po Hihingi lang po sana ako ng advice regarding my situation. Four years na ang work experience ko and 2.5 years doon ay employed ako sa isang government agency dito sa Pilipinas.

Job Order/Contractual lang po ang position ko doon (Engineering Assistant) at wala saming binibigay na payslip. Hindi rin nila inaasikaso ang SSS, Philhealth, and Pag-ibig namin at wala din silang binigay na BIR Form 2316 nung pag-alis ko kasi wala din ata silang na-file sa BIR.

Nacontact ko na yung HR and they are willing to provide a Reference Letter (Primary Document) pero wala silang mapoprovide na Secondary Documents.

Okay na po kaya ang Affidavit or Certification from the office stating na hindi included sa job contract ko ang benefits like SSS, Philhealth, and Pag-ibig? Based on my salary exempted din ako sa pag file ng ITR ("Individuals with no income, minimum wage earners, and those whose taxable income does not exceed PHP 250,000.")

Thank you po sa makakasagot

RheaMARN1171933

@toyotafx said:

@marvinreds said:
hello po, from SG din po pala kayo po. mahirap po ang CDR and EA assessment? nagbabalak kasi po ako na mag EA assessment pero feeling ko din hindi ng lahat ng work experience ko ay ma credit nila, so less points. pero sa inyo po ay yung 75 points ang na grant ng 190?

only spent a year sa SG. di naman nagbabawas si EA ng work expi, unlike VETASSESS. if the experience you're claiming is same or at least close to the occupation you're going for, di ka babawasan ng EA.

mabilis lang CDR. kailangan lang pagisipan. pare parehas namang ng structure per CDR:
1. think of an engineering project
2. provide intro to the CDR and what you're trying to explain
3. describe background of project
4. itemize statement of duties - ano ginawa mo sa project
5. org structure nung project team
6. personal engineering activities related to the project. describe your tasks, what you did, and outcome. use CAR format per paragraph, C-context, A-action, R-results. show images/illustrations if possible
7. summarize impact of project

yan yung general framework ko across my CDRs.

yes, 75 points for 190. hindi PMSOL yan.

I always tell my clients…if you’re able to earn a degree, you’re capable to write your CDR

sabina12

@toyotafx said:

@sabina12 said:
Hello po. Mag ask lang po if anyone knows kung magpapahelp po sa Agency regarding creation ng CDR for EA assessment, how much po ang fee? And may reco agency po kayo para dito?
Salamat po

nobody can stop you if you want to go this route. medyo may inherent risk nga lang. if you get caught, EA will penalize you by not allowing you to get a skills assessment from them for 12 months. i think they will also inform immigration, if i recall correctly.

the benefits are obvious, di ka na magiisip. pros and cons ka na lang.

maraming salamat po sa responses nyo @RheaMARN1171933, @ispidprik, @reemon, and @toyotafx
scaredy-cat lang po and pressured kasi need to process everything from English exams to EA assessments kasi nearing 33 na po, sayang yung points for age bracket.

another question po, makecredit po kaya yung past work experiences ko (although same naman ng nature with my latest/current company) pero ang ilalagay ko sa career episodes are mainly from my latest company? medj signs of aging po at di ko na masyado magrasp mga tasks/projects ko from previous one.

salamat po ulit

reemon

@sabina12 said:

@toyotafx said:

@sabina12 said:
Hello po. Mag ask lang po if anyone knows kung magpapahelp po sa Agency regarding creation ng CDR for EA assessment, how much po ang fee? And may reco agency po kayo para dito?
Salamat po

nobody can stop you if you want to go this route. medyo may inherent risk nga lang. if you get caught, EA will penalize you by not allowing you to get a skills assessment from them for 12 months. i think they will also inform immigration, if i recall correctly.

the benefits are obvious, di ka na magiisip. pros and cons ka na lang.

maraming salamat po sa responses nyo @RheaMARN1171933, @ispidprik, @reemon, and @toyotafx
scaredy-cat lang po and pressured kasi need to process everything from English exams to EA assessments kasi nearing 33 na po, sayang yung points for age bracket.

another question po, makecredit po kaya yung past work experiences ko (although same naman ng nature with my latest/current company) pero ang ilalagay ko sa career episodes are mainly from my latest company? medj signs of aging po at di ko na masyado magrasp mga tasks/projects ko from previous one.

salamat po ulit

Yes makecredit siya. CDR ko puro about sa current company ko, then nacredit naman kahit yung mga expi ko from past companies. Kaya niyo po yan. Good luck!

ispidprik

@sabina12 said:

@toyotafx said:

@sabina12 said:
Hello po. Mag ask lang po if anyone knows kung magpapahelp po sa Agency regarding creation ng CDR for EA assessment, how much po ang fee? And may reco agency po kayo para dito?
Salamat po

nobody can stop you if you want to go this route. medyo may inherent risk nga lang. if you get caught, EA will penalize you by not allowing you to get a skills assessment from them for 12 months. i think they will also inform immigration, if i recall correctly.

the benefits are obvious, di ka na magiisip. pros and cons ka na lang.

maraming salamat po sa responses nyo @RheaMARN1171933, @ispidprik, @reemon, and @toyotafx
scaredy-cat lang po and pressured kasi need to process everything from English exams to EA assessments kasi nearing 33 na po, sayang yung points for age bracket.

another question po, makecredit po kaya yung past work experiences ko (although same naman ng nature with my latest/current company) pero ang ilalagay ko sa career episodes are mainly from my latest company? medj signs of aging po at di ko na masyado magrasp mga tasks/projects ko from previous one.

salamat po ulit

For work experience you just have to prove na ngwork ka sa company and engineering work yung gnwa mo. Also, for the career episodes it will help if you read the Summary Statement para ma-structure mo un CDR mo and ndi ka mhirapan later on.

mswinterautumn

Hello po! Question lang po I'm done with all the requirements for CDR not sure lang po ako if i need to apply for the relevant skilled employment as well. TIA

rjankhristiaan

@mswinterautumn said:
Hello po! Question lang po I'm done with all the requirements for CDR not sure lang po ako if i need to apply for the relevant skilled employment as well. TIA

Hi @mswinterautumn , if you’re claiming points for your employment, better secure the RSEA kasi it will further strengthen your application and claim for points.

rjankhristiaan

Hi sa mga naaanxious dyan abt EA assessment. Share ko lang experience ko para mabawasan ang anxiety nyo. We got the NSW190 pre-invite last Apr. 14, 2022 and we lodged for nomination application on Apr. 21st. And in my EOI I was claiming 8+ years of work experience offshore and I only have a positive skill assessment by EA (MSA+CDR only, no RSEA)
Sa kakabasa ko sa mga forums at FB groups I realized na dapat pala nagavail ako ng RSEA para mas majustify ang 8+ years ko. Sobrang anxious ako nun kasi baka di maapprove ang NSW190 nomination ko. BUT, siguro nakatulong yung COE, Work Reference, ITR (though incomplete), SSS contri sa pag convince kay NSW. Fortunatley, the nomination was approved on May 2, 2022. But habang naghhintay sa NSW nomination approval, nagapply nako for RSEA. So when we lodged the visa application, yung MSA + CDR + RSEA na ang naiattach namin.

Lesson: ibigay na lahat lahat kay immigration or assessing body na tingin natin makakatulong. Kahit di hingin, ibigay narin. Mas maraming proof, the better. And I suggest if you’re claiming points for employment, better to do cdr+rsea.

I hope nakatulong to.

reemon

@mswinterautumn said:
Hello po! Question lang po I'm done with all the requirements for CDR not sure lang po ako if i need to apply for the relevant skilled employment as well. TIA

If may work experience ka na 3yrs or more na related sa nominated occupation mo, pwede ka mag apply for RSEA. RSEA will add points later on in your Expression of Interest.

reemon

Share ko lang may experience and FYI na rin, I submitted my CDR+RSEA+Fast Track last April 09 for Electrical Engineer occupation. EA requested additional docs on April 19 and I submitted the docs the following day. I got the positive income on May 19. FYI, ganun siya katagal kahit fast track. Sana makatulong sa ibang mag lodge ng CDR.

reemon

Correction: April 04 pala ako nagsubmit ng CDR RSEA with Fast Track

mswinterautumn

@reemon said:

@mswinterautumn said:
Hello po! Question lang po I'm done with all the requirements for CDR not sure lang po ako if i need to apply for the relevant skilled employment as well. TIA

If may work experience ka na 3yrs or more na related sa nominated occupation mo, pwede ka mag apply for RSEA. RSEA will add points later on in your Expression of Interest.

thank you po 😊

Olsie17

Hello po. Need ko advise if tamang sa IE ako magpa assess. Im an IE graduate but may work experience is master data management. Ang plan ko na ilagay sa CDR ko is yung projects na nahandle ko na naapply ko ung IE methodologies. Ok lang po ba yun? TIA.

Unsullied_06

@Olsie17 said:
Hello po. Need ko advise if tamang sa IE ako magpa assess. Im an IE graduate but may work experience is master data management. Ang plan ko na ilagay sa CDR ko is yung projects na nahandle ko na naapply ko ung IE methodologies. Ok lang po ba yun? TIA.

Hello po. IE din ako. Anong methodologies po specifically ilalagay niyo? As long as majajustify no problem naman. Ang goal kasi yung career episodes magmatch siya dun sa IE description or job responsibilities ng Engineers Australia.

Olsie17

@Unsullied_06 , ung pinaka una ko kasing work naging DMAIC project leader ako.. kasi that was 2007 pa... then ung mga recent e involvement lang sa Improvement project using a3 problem solving tool at just do it projects. Ok po kaya un ung medyo recent e hindi ako ung project leader?

ysmnsl

Hello po!
I received positive assessment from EA na. Nagsubmit po ako ulit for RSEA lang to count mu experience. Just want to check if anyone here knows gaano katagal ang processing for RSEA only? TIA.

kkkaaaccc

@ysmnsl said:
Hello po!
I received positive assessment from EA na. Nagsubmit po ako ulit for RSEA lang to count mu experience. Just want to check if anyone here knows gaano katagal ang processing for RSEA only? TIA.

Sa akin after a day lumabas agad ang result.

ysmnsl

@kkkaaaccc said:

@ysmnsl said:
Hello po!
I received positive assessment from EA na. Nagsubmit po ako ulit for RSEA lang to count mu experience. Just want to check if anyone here knows gaano katagal ang processing for RSEA only? TIA.

Sa akin after a day lumabas agad ang result.

Oh. Sakin po kasi, more than a week na. 😅