Australian Computer Society Skills Application

louieg · October 2015

Pano kaya yung mga freelance project ko na software development, how do I claim experience dun? may project kasi ako before sa Petron, application na nag kocompute ng langis na sinasakay sa mga barge na papuntang Pandacan, almost a year ko din ginawa up to now ginagamit pa sa Petron Bataan Refinery, ano kaya ang mga documents na kailangan ko ma secure? di ako nag bayad ng tax para dun sa project since freelance nga lang sya at wala din akong receipt. Willing naman magbigay ng certifications of mag sign yung supervisor sa Petron, any suggestions, may gumawa na ba nito dito? sayang naman kasi ung 1 year work experience.

jandm · October 2015

@jandm
Tingin ko kung positive assessed ka sa ACS tapos 0 points pero pasok sa 60points min for visa189 eh pwede.

thanks for the affirmation..we have 3 options actually..

1 - hubby primary applicant w/ 55 pts then state nomination to get additional 5 points
2 - hubby primary applicant, wait for his IELTS retake on November 7
3 - me primary applicant (pero 0 skilled work experience baka slim ung chance to get invited)

need to think further kung anong magandang diskarte..

kittykitkat18 · October 2015

@jandm i know someone 0 pts sa exprience..may PR na cla ☺ bsta makaabot ka ng 60 pts

jandm · October 2015

@jandm i know someone 0 pts sa exprience..may PR na cla ☺ bsta makaabot ka ng 60 pts

thanks @kittykitkat18 for uplifting my spirit..lagi ka anjan to answer my posts..God bless your new journey..mag-apply na rin siguro ako ng EOI..wala naman siguro magiging problema (hopefully) since nameet ko ung required points..salamat ulit

kittykitkat18 · October 2015

@jandm no problem sis..mag eoi ka na pra makahabol sa october.. if u want higher points..try state nomination or 20pts sa pte or ielts..but if ur satisfied na sa 60 pts.. go go na..goodluck syo sis

jandm · October 2015

@jandm no problem sis..mag eoi ka na pra makahabol sa october.. if u want higher points..try state nomination or 20pts sa pte or ielts..but if ur satisfied na sa 60 pts.. go go na..goodluck syo sis

mabilis lng ba makakuha ng result sa state nomination? chineck ko both visa 189 and 190 sa pag apply ng EOI..

kittykitkat18 · October 2015

@jandm depende sis sa state kng san..dun sa kakilala ko inablt 3 months..pro last yr pa un..kasi si hubby 189 pinili nya..naselect nmn kgad dhil cguro sa pts.kng decided kyo na 190..apply ka na kgad..bka abutan ka ng holiday delays nyan

jandm · October 2015

@kittykitkat18 both visa 189 and 190 ung chineck ko sa mga options..NSW ung state na pinili namin kasi andun yung cousin and some friends..whichever comes we'll be grateful

oo nga antaas naman ksi ng score ni hubby 70 pts kaya ambilis nyo na invite..sana nga mag progress rin ung application namin..pray lng God moves in wondrous ways..thanks ulit ha

mgt21 · October 2015

Hello question, for COE ng present, ok lang ba na HR manager yung signatory? yung Manager ko kasi based sa Europe. Anybody here who had that experience? Thanks!

kittykitkat18 · October 2015

@jandm ok yan may relative and friends ka sa nsw pra hndi ka mahrpan magsettle..have faith magkakaron din yan ng invite when u least expected it. Pray pray lng tyo..goodluck again sis

kittykitkat18 · October 2015

@mgt21 sa coe ng hubby ko puro hr ang nakapirma..so no problem nmn.as long as complete details required by acs

jandm · October 2015

@mgt21 yes, ksi lahat naman ng COE na pinaassess namin sa ACS HR ung mga signatories hindi project/team manager

wingleaf · October 2015

question po, bali ung 1st job ko is contractual and under agency with 8 months experience sa PLDT, pero nilagay ko sa resume ko ang company is PLDT not the agency, ok lang po ba un? and pede ko rin ba ilagay un kahit 8 months lang ang experience? thanks

Xiaomau82 · October 2015

question po, bali ung 1st job ko is contractual and under agency with 8 months experience sa PLDT, pero nilagay ko sa resume ko ang company is PLDT not the agency, ok lang po ba un? and pede ko rin ba ilagay un kahit 8 months lang ang experience? thanks

yes pwede mo ilagay as employment with PLDT, are u claiming points for it ba? if yes, you need evidence na deployed ka sa PLDT. are u able to get employer reference letter with PLDT company letterhead? pwede ilagay kahit 8 months lang.

wingleaf · October 2015

@Xiaomau82 Thanks, Yup ilalagay ko sya for added experience and points, May format ka po ba ng employer reference letter? kasi ung agency ko wala na sa business and ni contact ko na ung isa sa mga naging superior ko sa PLDT kung ano number ng HR na pede ko tanungin kaso wala pa rin. may ma susugest ka po ba sakin kung ano pede ko gawin para mabigyan ako ng COE at valid naman sa ACS? Thanks ule.

Xiaomau82 · October 2015

@Xiaomau82 Thanks, Yup ilalagay ko sya for added experience and points, May format ka po ba ng employer reference letter? kasi ung agency ko wala na sa business and ni contact ko na ung isa sa mga naging superior ko sa PLDT kung ano number ng HR na pede ko tanungin kaso wala pa rin. may ma susugest ka po ba sakin kung ano pede ko gawin para mabigyan ako ng COE at valid naman sa ACS? Thanks ule.

wala ka bang nakuhang coe before ka umalis ng company? if meron, pwede nmn coe + statutory declaration na lang kunin mo. para di ka na kukuha ng bagong coe.

wingleaf · October 2015

@Xiaomau82 sad to say nawawala ung COE ko dun kasama ng TOR dahil sa pag move namin sa ibang haus, kaya kumuha uli ako sa school ng another copy of TOR. pero ok ung suggestion mo bro, saka oks lang ba sabihin ko sa PLDT na sila na lang magbigay ng COE then pa statutory ko na lang ung superior ko dun?

kittykitkat18 · October 2015

Nakaexperience na si hubby na ganyan..hired sya ni Company A..pro deployed sa Company B...mga almost 2yrs un. Afterwhich absorb na din sya ni Company B

Now, closed na si Company A..nagbakasakali kme kay Company B ng COE. Nabigyan sya ng COE.tpos nakalagay is This is to certify that juan dela cruz is a contractual employee etc of Company B

Tpos dun sa time na nabsorbed sya ni Company B...instead of Contractual..Permanent employee ang status.

Bale 2 COE ni hubby from company B

question po, bali ung 1st job ko is contractual and under agency with 8 months experience sa PLDT, pero nilagay ko sa resume ko ang company is PLDT not the agency, ok lang po ba un? and pede ko rin ba ilagay un kahit 8 months lang ang experience? thanks

wingleaf · October 2015

@ihsan21 anong school mo bro? saka ang laki ng bawas 4 years, if you dont mind asking ano ba title ng job mo?

snider · October 2015

@ihsan21 ganon ata talaga. AMA din ako, Computer Engineering course pero ang nominated skill ko is Software Engineer. 4 years deduction din ako siguro dahil more on hardware ang course ko and software naman ang nominated skill ko.

mdc · October 2015

For everyone how ACS determine the work experience and skilled requirement. It doesn't mean kahit graduate ka sa selected course mo is may points un as per this statement "The work experience required to meet the suitability criteria is NOT included as Skilled Employment and is NOT eligible for points under the skilled migration points test."

The Skill Level Requirement Met Date is dependent on the completion of both the relevant qualification and relevant work experience.

The ACS assessment process will seek to find the earliest Skill Level Requirement Met Date possible for each assessment type.

Example 1 – Employment completed AFTER the qualification:
 - You complete a relevant Bachelor degree with a major in ICT in Jan 2008 and you have 4 years of relevant work experience from Jan 2008 until Jan 2012.
 - 2 years of work experience will be used to satisfy the suitability criteria and your Skill Level Requirement Met Date will be Jan 2010.
 - All suitable work experience completed AFTER Jan 2010 will be considered Skilled Employment and eligible for the skilled migration points test.
 - The 2 years of work experience used to satisfy the suitability criteria is NOT eligible for the skilled migration points test but is assessed to meet the suitability criteria.

Example 2 – Employment BEFORE the qualification:
 - You complete 2 years of relevant work experience from Jan 2003 until Jan 2005
 - You complete another 2 years of relevant work experience from Jan 2006 until Jan 2008
 - You complete a 3 year relevant Bachelor degree in Jan 2011
 - You complete a final 1 year of relevant work experience from Jan 2012 until Jan 2013
 - The “Skill Level Requirement Met Date” will be Jan 2011 because this is the date BOTH the relevant work experience AND the relevant qualification are completed
 - Only relevant work experience completed after Jan 2011 is considered “Skilled Employment” and eligible for migration points test
 - All work experience completed before Jan 2011 is NOT eligible for migration points test.

https://www.acs.org.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0020/7319/Skills-Assessment-Guidelines-for-Applicants.pdf

mdc · October 2015

@snider. sayang if deduct ung 4 yrs work experience mo. just knew na its important sa chosen nominated skill mo is matched dun sa work experience mo. like if your work experience is more on system hardware so hnd sya matched sa software engineer since ACS will find for description of duties related sa nominated skills napili mo or if meron ka tlaga work experience related to software engineer could be software testing, programming, debugging etc...

ihsan21 · October 2015

Thanks sir @mdc very informative.

snider · October 2015

@mdc oo nga e, nanghinayang din ako nun una. 9 years na din akong software engineer, so minus 4 kaya 5 years na lang natira. 10pts pa din naman. habol na lang sa IELTS.

mdc · October 2015

@ihsan21 welcome!

mdc · October 2015

@snider bawi nlang din sa ibang categorary ng points or options

ricardooper · October 2015

Question lng po. newbie here. Nasa qatar po ako ngyn.
1.My problem is pano po kung close na yung dating company sa pinas. Sino po pwede pumirma ng CoE.
2. Nabasa ko rin po kelangan ipanotaryo ang ang CoE, what if nasa abroad?
3. Nalilito rin po ako kung anong skill ang inonominate ko. 263111 - Computer Network and Systems Engineer or 263212 - ICT Support Engineer? I have 5 years experience as IT Helpdesk in Philippines and 3 years NOC Engineer in Doha (which is my current job) Currently yung job ko ngyn is more on system and network monitoring and escalations.

wingleaf · October 2015

@ihsan21 wag mo na po ilagay sir..hehe..no idea bro kung may points ang CCNP..

@ricardooper
1. no idea ako dyan at no assurance, pero try mong mag pa statutory declaration sa mga naging boss mo.
2. Kelangan mo talaga sya ipa notarized.
3. Try lang sa Computer Network and Systems Engineer kung indi pasado saka ka mag ICT Support Engineer, actually parehas tayo ng iniisip pero try lang naman. although may panibagong bayad na-naman pero pano natin malalaman kung indi natin susubukan.

mariem · October 2015

@jrs
Thank you for your replies

We submitted the ACS application for assessment Oct 18 and as of yesterday nasa Stage 4 na kaagad sya. So glad na okay yung COE that we have submitted.

@wingleaf
We only submitted the passport with CTC kasi yung birth certificate ni hubby may error and hindi rin gaanong mabasa kaya we opted to submit the passport.

Praying for positive result! Thanks

mdc · October 2015

@ricardooper @wingleaf . nabasa ko to mas ok kung san mataas makagain ng points base sa actual work experience un piliin na nomination at para iwas ung deduct kung hnd nman match. so if san dto sa dalawa ung related work na matched tlaga.

263111 - Computer Network and Systems Engineer
Plans, develops, deploys, tests and optimizes network and system services, taking responsibility for configuration management and overall operational readiness of network systems, especially environments with multiple operating systems and configurations, and provides troubleshooting and fault-finding services for network problems.

Description of Employment Duties:
 analyzing, developing, interpreting and evaluating complex system design and architecture specifications, data models and diagrams in the development, configuration and integration of computer systems
 researching, analyzing, evaluating and monitoring network infrastructure to ensure networks are configured to operate at optimal performance
 assessing and recommending improvements to network operations and integrated hardware, software, communications and operating systems
 providing specialist skills in supporting and troubleshooting network problems and emergencies
 installing, configuring, testing, maintaining and administering new and upgraded networks, software database applications, servers and workstations
 providing network programming in support of specific business needs and requirements
 preparing and maintaining procedures and documentation for network inventory, and recording diagnosis and resolution of network faults, enhancements and modifications to networks, and maintenance instructions
 monitoring network traffic, and activity, capacity and usage to ensure continued integrity and optimal network performance

263212 - ICT Support Engineer
Develops support procedures and strategies for systems, networks, operating systems and applications development, solves problems and provides technical expertise and direction in support of system infrastructure and process improvements, and diagnoses and resolves complex system problems.

Description of Employment Duties:
 scheduling and conducting quality audit inspections, and analyzing and reviewing systems, data and documentation
 identifying variations and potential high risk areas in securing adherence to standards and procedures
 recommending corrective action plans and improvements in the resolution of non-compliance with standards detected through monitoring and auditing of processes and procedures
 communicating, educating and liaising with users and management to ensure awareness and adherence to standards, procedures and quality control issues and activities
 assisting in troubleshooting, diagnosing, testing and resolving system problems and issues
 developing, conducting and providing technical guidance and training in application software and operational procedures
 analyzing, evaluating and diagnosing technical problems and issues such as installation, maintenance, repair, upgrade and configuration and troubleshooting of desktops, software, hardware, printers, Internet, email, databases, operating systems and security systems
 testing, identifying and diagnosing functionality errors and faults in systems, and programming code within established testing protocols, guidelines and quality standards to ensure systems perform to specification
 performing organizational systems architecture reviews and assessments, and recommending current and future hardware and software strategies and directions
 creating and reviewing technical documentation such as procedural, instructional and operational guides and manuals, technical reports and specifications and maintenance inventory systems