Australian Computer Society Skills Application

shielalables · June 2016

se29m said:
@chewychewbacca state sponsorship.. di naman naglabas ng bagong guidelines ang ibang states.. SA lang naglabas

Sana-sana hindi magtaas yung ibang states

guenb · June 2016

@Noodles12 per position yung entry, they'll determine kasi if the positions are relevant to your NOC, kaya dapat yung sa reference mu ganun din per position with respective duration then job description

wingleaf · June 2016

@Noodles12 - yup, taman si guenb na per position. same din tayo na sa isang company 2 naging position ko at ibang team.

wolf7309 · June 2016

Sa akin ang ginawa ko lang kahit nakatatlong position ako sa isang company is un last title lang nilagay ko.. then start and end date ng employment to that company. So far nag ok naman sa assessment as long na may pirma ng boss :-) kapag kasi iisa isahin mo per position tingin mas mahirap pano ipresent.

wolf7309 · June 2016

Sa mga 2631 ang code jan abang2 na kasi malapit na July 1 para sa new FY.. sana mataas ang ceiling nila ngayon.

n_nicee · June 2016

naka-publish na yung occupation ceiling values for 2016-2017 sa http://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Work/Skil:

2611 ICT Business and Systems Analysts 1482
2613 Software and Applications Programmers 5662
2631 Computer Network Professionals 1426

all the best sa ating lahat

chewychewbacca · June 2016

@n_nicee Tinaasan nila yung 2613, thank God!!

Noodles12 · June 2016

@wingleaf @guenb Thanks! ang ginawa ko is per position ang entry then same document attachemnt. tama ba? ganun kasi nakita ko sa ibang forum na pinagawa daw ng CO nila.

medyo madami nga lang ung entry ko since 2 companies ko yung 3x ako na promote. sana hindi malito yung CO na mag aassess sakin at positive result sana. hehe

greatsoul · June 2016

Hi guys... Question.. Bago lang ako sa new work ko, last week lang ako nag start, kelangan ba kuha ako ng coe at include ko sa isusubmit ko for assessment? I have 4 coe na, ready for submission... Pero im just thinking to also include the new company.. Kindly advise?

Noodles12 · June 2016

@greatsoul Im not sure kung may bearing kung isama mo pa sa ipapaassess yung latest work mo since wala ka pang 1 month. wala ding ma crecredit siguro. but lets wait sa iba baka may experience din sila like your situation.

greatsoul · June 2016

Thank you @Noodles12 ... Ang iniisip ko kasi, say ang naassess lang sakin is 4yrs 11months exp, yung count sa new job pwede ko magamit after 2months? Tama ba pagkainitindinko? Since ang nakalagay ay june23-present?

Noodles12 · June 2016

@greatsoul ang alam ko kasi, ang icoconsider ng ACS is for example current employer mo ang naka state sa date is from june 23 up to date. hangang dun lang sa date na nakalagay sa employment reference mo. kunyare ung COE mo dated ng today June 29, so from june 23-29 lang un. wala pang month.

paki correct nalang po ng iba if mali pagkakaintindi ko. hehe

psalms5110 · June 2016

@Noodles12 per company naman u

Noodles12 said:
@wingleaf @guenb Thanks! ang ginawa ko is per position ang entry then same document attachemnt. tama ba? ganun kasi nakita ko sa ibang forum na pinagawa daw ng CO nila.

medyo madami nga lang ung entry ko since 2 companies ko yung 3x ako na promote. sana hindi malito yung CO na mag aassess sakin at positive result sana. hehe

sa EOI ganun dn ba gagawin mo? or per company na lang? ask natin sa iba ano ginawa nila sa EOI, kung per position ung sa ACS.

psalms5110 · June 2016

greatsoul said:
Thank you @Noodles12 ... Ang iniisip ko kasi, say ang naassess lang sakin is 4yrs 11months exp, yung count sa new job pwede ko magamit after 2months? Tama ba pagkainitindinko? Since ang nakalagay ay june23-present?

pwede mo namang isama kung gusto mong tumatakbo pa ung experience mo. pero make sure lang na ung details required by ACS ay nandun pa rin.

Noodles12 · June 2016

psalms5110 said:
@Noodles12 per company naman u
Noodles12 said:
@wingleaf @guenb Thanks! ang ginawa ko is per position ang entry then same document attachemnt. tama ba? ganun kasi nakita ko sa ibang forum na pinagawa daw ng CO nila.

medyo madami nga lang ung entry ko since 2 companies ko yung 3x ako na promote. sana hindi malito yung CO na mag aassess sakin at positive result sana. hehe
sa EOI ganun dn ba gagawin mo? or per company na lang? ask natin sa iba ano ginawa nila sa EOI, kung per position ung sa ACS.

Hindi pa ako nakapag submit ng EOI. so far for ACS palang ginawa ko.

BTW what do you mean by "Per Company Naman u"

greatsoul · June 2016

psalms5110 said:

greatsoul said:
Thank you @Noodles12 ... Ang iniisip ko kasi, say ang naassess lang sakin is 4yrs 11months exp, yung count sa new job pwede ko magamit after 2months? Tama ba pagkainitindinko? Since ang nakalagay ay june23-present?
pwede mo namang isama kung gusto mong tumatakbo pa ung experience mo. pero make sure lang na ung details required by ACS ay nandun pa rin.

Yun sana plan ko. Say ngayon 4yrs 11mos, pero sa time na ilolodge ko yung visa, after 5 months, so madadagdagan yung 4yrs11mos na inassess ng ACS? Please correct me if im wrong

greatsoul · June 2016

ios_dev said:
Ask for an updated employer reference, indicate the current date as end date. then lagay mo for example: 30-June-2014 (to date).

You can also do that, but why bother? According to the ACS guidelines (Page 12)

- Employment references can only be calculated until the date of submission. The “To Date” will be taken from the employment reference date or the submission date of your application – whichever comes first.

oh ok... hirap mag back read... ganto pala un... akala ko kasi, Say ang na assess today is 4 yrs 11 months, and ang application ko ng visa is after 5 months, hinde 5yrs and 4months ang macocover. yung time lang pala na sinubmit yung Assessment for ACS.

wingleaf · June 2016

@Noodles12 - yup, different position and same document. so far wala ako idea sa EOI kasi wala pa ako sa stage na yan.

psalms5110 · June 2016

Noodles12 said:

psalms5110 said:
@Noodles12 per company naman u
Noodles12 said:
@wingleaf @guenb Thanks! ang ginawa ko is per position ang entry then same document attachemnt. tama ba? ganun kasi nakita ko sa ibang forum na pinagawa daw ng CO nila.

medyo madami nga lang ung entry ko since 2 companies ko yung 3x ako na promote. sana hindi malito yung CO na mag aassess sakin at positive result sana. hehe
sa EOI ganun dn ba gagawin mo? or per company na lang? ask natin sa iba ano ginawa nila sa EOI, kung per position ung sa ACS.
Hindi pa ako nakapag submit ng EOI. so far for ACS palang ginawa ko.

BTW what do you mean by "Per Company Naman u"

sa qouting lang siguro yan. Ito lang sinabi ko
"sa EOI ganun dn ba gagawin mo? or per company na lang? ask natin sa iba ano ginawa nila sa EOI, kung per position ung sa ACS."

sige, ask ka na lang sa forum kpg nasa next steps ka na. Ung worry ko lang kc is kung per position din sa EOI, or per company.

guenb · June 2016

greatsoul said:

ios_dev said:
Ask for an updated employer reference, indicate the current date as end date. then lagay mo for example: 30-June-2014 (to date).
You can also do that, but why bother? According to the ACS guidelines (Page 12)

- Employment references can only be calculated until the date of submission. The “To Date” will be taken from the employment reference date or the submission date of your application – whichever comes first.

oh ok... hirap mag back read... ganto pala un... akala ko kasi, Say ang na assess today is 4 yrs 11 months, and ang application ko ng visa is after 5 months, hinde 5yrs and 4months ang macocover. yung time lang pala na sinubmit yung Assessment for ACS.

actually pwede m pa din e include yung current, kasi nga pwedeng hindi ka naman agad mag eoi, so in the case na mag eoi ka yung current job mu syempre yung nka open date. Lalo na kung suitable yung result mu from ACS and what if pwede ka pala kmuha points for experience. Kung bibigyan ka nman ng work reference ni new company why not include it. pwede kasi mangyari experience after June 2014 can equate to skilled employment, example lang...

greatsoul · June 2016

guenb said:

greatsoul said:

ios_dev said:
Ask for an updated employer reference, indicate the current date as end date. then lagay mo for example: 30-June-2014 (to date).
You can also do that, but why bother? According to the ACS guidelines (Page 12)

- Employment references can only be calculated until the date of submission. The “To Date” will be taken from the employment reference date or the submission date of your application – whichever comes first.
oh ok... hirap mag back read... ganto pala un... akala ko kasi, Say ang na assess today is 4 yrs 11 months, and ang application ko ng visa is after 5 months, hinde 5yrs and 4months ang macocover. yung time lang pala na sinubmit yung Assessment for ACS.

actually pwede m pa din e include yung current, kasi nga pwedeng hindi ka naman agad mag eoi, so in the case na mag eoi ka yung current job mu syempre yung nka open date. Lalo na kung suitable yung result mu from ACS and what if pwede ka pala kmuha points for experience. Kung bibigyan ka nman ng work reference ni new company why not include it. pwede kasi mangyari experience after June 2014 can equate to skilled employment, example lang...

Naguguluhan na ako haha! So kunwari, after 5 months pa ako mag eoi, madadagdagan pa yung months ng suitable exp ko? Say inline parin sa career ko, hinde na kelangan mag re assess sa acs? Kindly advise. Thanks

psalms5110 · June 2016

@greatsoul yup. Hindi na kelangan magpareassess, as long as nandun ka pa sa company mo, and related siya sa job code mo. kpg naglodge na ng visa, proof na lang na working ka pa rin dun (payslips, itr, coe siguro na latest, although up to date lang naman nakalagay dun).

greatsoul · June 2016

psalms5110 said:
@greatsoul yup. Hindi na kelangan magpareassess, as long as nandun ka pa sa company mo, and related siya sa job code mo. kpg naglodge na ng visa, proof na lang na working ka pa rin dun (payslips, itr, coe siguro na latest, although up to date lang naman nakalagay dun).

Sobrang salamat sa info sir!

MissM · June 2016

Question po, graduate po kasi ako ng Computer Engineering (5-yr course). Initial work ko is programmer (for 4 yrs), then naging BA (for 5 yrs). Plan ko magpa assess sa ACS as BA. Di ako sure if they will consider it as ICT Major or Minor, and if relevant yun work exp/skills ko sa course ko. Yun school ko falls under section 2.

Kinakabahan lang ako sa magiging result ng assessment. Im wishing na hindi 5pts un ibigay nila. Sana po may makapag share ng views re: sa qualification and skills ko. TIA!

guenb · July 2016

@ medyo pareho tayo background, if mag-papa assess ka for BA then I think you'll have the same result as mine. Kahit section 2 school pero dahil 5-year course yung Coe I'm sure it will still be AQF Bachelor's Degree which will give you 15pts. Bale ganito yung result:

Your qualification has been assessed as not closely related to your nominated occupation:

Your Bachelor of Science in Computer Engineering from (institution) completed
(date) has been assessed as comparable to an AQF Bachelor Degree with a major in
computing.

So dahil not closely related yung ComEng sa BA they will deduct you 4 years from your experience. You will be suitable for migration but you cannot get points for experience.

Actually pwede mu din ipa assess yung sa programmer mu na experience, ang konti kasi ng slots for BA at ang minimum pts daw sabi nila to get invited is around 65-70...

MissM · July 2016

@guenb thank you sa reply mo dun sa kabilang thread. If programmer yun magiging nominated occupation ko, mas malaki ba ang chance na mabigyan nila ako ng points for qualification?

Yun concern ko naman is more on BA practice na ako. Baka once I'm in Oz na, they will expect me to work as programmer, not BA. Medyo outdated na programming skills ko.

Xiaomau82 · July 2016

MissM said:
Question po, graduate po kasi ako ng Computer Engineering (5-yr course). Initial work ko is programmer (for 4 yrs), then naging BA (for 5 yrs). Plan ko magpa assess sa ACS as BA. Di ako sure if they will consider it as ICT Major or Minor, and if relevant yun work exp/skills ko sa course ko. Yun school ko falls under section 2.

Kinakabahan lang ako sa magiging result ng assessment. Im wishing na hindi 5pts un ibigay nila. Sana po may makapag share ng views re: sa qualification and skills ko. TIA!

claim mo na din ung programmer as BA. just make sure lang ung job description mo e nagfocus ka sa BA tasks mo kahit programmer ka. from which ka ba? i think for your case maconsider ka na bachelor's degree (hopefullY) since 5 year course ka