most recent by eel_kram025
The Best Vegan Eats in San Diego: El Avocado
most recent by RosieHockm
VICTORIA STATES SPONSORSHIP 2024-2025
most recent by Ozdrims
most recent by NicoTheDoggo
QUEENSLAND STATES SPONSORSHIP FY 2024-2025
most recent by Ozdrims
Australian Computer Society Skills Application
most recent by Ozdrims
most recent by Cerberus13
NSW STATE SPONSORSHIP 2024~2025
most recent by Ozdrims
Highly suggested Migration Agency
most recent by Marionittes40
most recent by Marionittes40
The longest running Pinoy-Australian Forum site in the history. We are connecting Pinoys "in" and "to" Australia since 2010! If you want to join in, click one of these buttons!
Comments
Posts: 158Member
Joined: Sep 19, 2018
Salamat po sa inyo and Ms. @RheaMARN1171933. Noted.
By the way, curious lang ano or may action ba ako need gawin in case sa scenario na ganto?
Napansin ko dun sa immi site na details ng wife ko na-update yung lastname nya kasabay ng co contact and mali ang spelling. Dati correct naman yun. Most likely naupdate ni Case officer. Ano kaya need ko gawin dun and may way ba to let them know about that? I think wala namang impact sa actual records ko kasi yung mga nainput ko naman na documents sa side ko is tama. Though wary lang ako ba somehow maging problem sya later. Yung details naman nung naggenerate ako ng docs for medical tama naman spelling.
see image for reference:
Thank you in advance po sa sasagot. God bless.
(261313 | Age: 30 | Employment: 15| BS Degree: 15 | English: 20 | Total:80)
July 29, 2018 - IELTS : Competent
October 3, 2018 - Submit ACS assessment
Dec 07, 2018 - ACS assessment result - Associate Degree
February 4, 2019 - Re-appeal to ACS for incorrect assessment
February 15, 2019 - ACS Dispute Result - Positive outcome. Bachelors Degree
February 23, 2019 - 1st take PTE-A : Superior
February 28, 2019 - Submitted EOI for 189
March 10, 2019 - ITA for 189 Received
March 27, 2019 - Medicals at NHSI
March 29, 2019 - Medicals No Actions Required
April 17, 2019 - Visa Lodged
January 30, 2020 - CO Contact: FBI clearance
February 13, 2020 - Responded to CO contact
March 17, 2020 - Updated NBI (Police) Clearance
May 20, 2021 - CO Contact: Re-do Medical, Re-do Police Clearance
June 7, 2021 - Medicals (2nd) at NHSI
June 9, 2021 - Medicals No Actions Required
June 14, 2021 - Updated NBI (Police) Clearance and responded to CO contact
June 21, 2021 - Visa Grant
Q1 2022 - Big Move
Joined: Nov 07, 2019
Good day po. Silent reader po ako since 2019.. nadala po sa dasal, salamat lord na DG po kmi knina ni wifey
Electrical Engineer OFFSHORE
Lodge Date: Aug 11 2020
Direct Grant: May 25, 2021
PS: Salamat po sa forum na to at sa lahat po ng nagcocomment at nagtuturo. Nag DIY lng po kmi all the way.
Posts: 158Member
Joined: Sep 19, 2018
Congrats po @hotecson ! God bless!
(261313 | Age: 30 | Employment: 15| BS Degree: 15 | English: 20 | Total:80)
July 29, 2018 - IELTS : Competent
October 3, 2018 - Submit ACS assessment
Dec 07, 2018 - ACS assessment result - Associate Degree
February 4, 2019 - Re-appeal to ACS for incorrect assessment
February 15, 2019 - ACS Dispute Result - Positive outcome. Bachelors Degree
February 23, 2019 - 1st take PTE-A : Superior
February 28, 2019 - Submitted EOI for 189
March 10, 2019 - ITA for 189 Received
March 27, 2019 - Medicals at NHSI
March 29, 2019 - Medicals No Actions Required
April 17, 2019 - Visa Lodged
January 30, 2020 - CO Contact: FBI clearance
February 13, 2020 - Responded to CO contact
March 17, 2020 - Updated NBI (Police) Clearance
May 20, 2021 - CO Contact: Re-do Medical, Re-do Police Clearance
June 7, 2021 - Medicals (2nd) at NHSI
June 9, 2021 - Medicals No Actions Required
June 14, 2021 - Updated NBI (Police) Clearance and responded to CO contact
June 21, 2021 - Visa Grant
Q1 2022 - Big Move
Joined: Sep 13, 2019
Hi just want to ask po, papano nyo inupload yung requested docs ng CO? Inemail nyo po ba sila? Under what folder if uupload?
Posts: 130Member
Joined: May 27, 2015
Sa immiaccount mo lang din. Sa ‘Others’ then lagyan mo lang ng file name
Joined: Sep 13, 2019
Thank you so much po!
Joined: Dec 16, 2020
Hi guys, pagkatapos matanggap ang 190 nominasyon, maaari ba akong lumikha ng hap id upang maproseso ang medikal na pagsusuri bago isumite ang aking aplikasyon. Dahil hindi ako nakatanggap ng tseke sa ibang bansa ng pulisya na maaaring tumagal ng oras
Joined: Jul 25, 2020
Hello po, hope everything is going well po,
ask ko lang po sana if paano maclaclaim un +5 point sa language? thanks po!
Joined: Jul 25, 2020
Hello good day po, newbie po here, may mga ilang katanungan lang po ako about sa 189 visa:
THANK YOU SO MUCH PO
Posts: 13Member
Joined: May 22, 2021
I have an agent so ibe-base ko yung isasagot ko sa pinagawa sa akin
I only submitted 1 payslip per year and I just printed it from email since via email lang binibigay sa amin. Hindi naman pina-notarize sa akin.
+10 points for Proficient and +20 points for Superior. https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/help-support/meeting-our-requirements/english-language/
2021.01.05 | Consultation with an Agent
2021.02.19 | 1st PTE Exam
2021.04.07 | Cancelled PTE Exam due to Enhanced Community Quarantine
2021.05.11 | 2nd PTE Exam achieved higher score for visa 189, 190 and 491
2021.06.16 | Occupational Therapy Council Skills Assessment Positive Outcome
2021.06.21 | Created EOI for Visa 189, 190 and 491 under South Australia
2021.06.29 | Decided to look for an Employer for TSS Visa 482 Employer-Sponsored Visa since the border is still closed for Offshore applicants
2021.07.08 | Interview with Employer from NSW
2021.07.22 | 2nd Interview with Employer
2021.08.03 | Interview with Supervisor
2021.08.11 | Meeting with Employer's Agent
2021.09.21 | Visa Lodgment
2021.09.28 | Travel Restriction Exemption
2021.10.13 | Medical Examination
2021.10.15 | Visa Approval
2021.11.26 | AUSTRALIA
2022.08.22 | Permanent Resident Invitation 189
2022.09.06 | Another Expression of Interest due to wrong information from my previous EOI and agent advised not to lodge visa application
2022.10.06 | New Permanent Resident Invitation 189
2022.10.28 | Visa 189 Application Lodgment
2022.10.31 | Medical Examination
Joined: Jul 25, 2020
@nikohlainofinada thanks po, so kahit 1 payslipo lang per year pwede na pla..
un sa language po I mean for being dual language po.
thanks po ulit.
Joined: Jul 25, 2020
Posts: 1,017Member, Moderator
Joined: Sep 13, 2019
https://www.innovationaus.com/global-talent-and-innovation-visas-to-becut/
DIY all the way. Avoid preachy, know-it-all, and unscrupulous agents AT ALL COSTS!
"We must look for ways to be an active force in our own lives. We must take charge of our own destinies, design a life of substance and truly begin to live our dreams." - Les Brown
261312 (Developer Programmer) - Main | 261111 (ICT Business Analyst) - Wife
189 (95), 190 (100)
2023
14 Nov | BIG MOVE
01 Nov | HIRED | First day of work. Remote working arrangement from SG
--- Trying my luck at job hunting while in Singapore and BM planning on the side ---
19 Apr | Direct Visa Grant | What a journey... JUST GRATEFUL!
2022 - Pandemic Eases Off
17 Nov | Medical Test Clearance
15 Nov | Medical Test
03 Nov | EOI #4, #6 | 189 Withdrawn, 190 NSW Withdrawn
03 Nov | Visa Application | 190 VIC --- THE REAL WAITING GAME BEGINS!!!
31 Oct | ITA | 190 VIC | never thought this day would come!!! T.T good decision to defer NSW nomination.
27 Oct | Pre-ITA | 190 NSW --- sabi nila, when it rains, it pours!!!
26 Oct | Nomination Application | 190 VIC
26 Oct | Pre-ITA | 190 VIC --- one step closer, sa wakas, PADAYON!!!
21 Oct | EOI #4, #5 + ROI, #6 DoE | 189, 190 VIC, 190 NSW
21 Oct | ACS Assessment (Wife) Renewal - Suitable
xx Mar| EOI#1, #2, #3 | 189 Expired, 190 NSW Expired, 190 VIC Expired
2021 - Pandemic Still
25 Sep | ACS Assessment (Main) Renewal - Suitable
01 Feb | EOI#4 DoE | 189
2020 - Pandemic
19 Aug | EOI#1, #2, #3 DoE | 189, 190 NSW, 190 VIC
30 Jul | NAATI CCL Online Test | Result: Passed
09 Mar | PTE (Wife) | Results: L90 R80 S90 W82 (Superior)
19 Feb | PTE (Main) | Results: L90 R83 S90 W82 (Superior)
12 Feb | ACS Assessment (Wife) - Suitable | Expired
2019
24 Oct | ACS Assessment (Main) - Suitable | Expired
2018
--- Tons of research, document collection and other necessary preparations ---
01 Sep | The Beginning | Had the chance to visit Oz, and immediately fell in love with it!
Posts: 393Member
Joined: Jul 04, 2017
Question po sa eMedical.
Last time na napamedical ako was 2019 wherein I was still using my old passport. Nag-renew ako ng passport last 2019. Nung nagsasagot ako ng eMedical, napansin ko sa general information sheet, hindi pa updated yung passport number ko. However, sa email naman ni CO sa attachment ng request checklist and details for medical, updated yung passport number ko. Nagtataka lang ako bakit hindi updated yung sa eMedical e yung link naman para maaccess ko ito ay yung link na nasa immiaccount under health assessment.
Do I still need to update my passport details sa eMedical? or May means ba para ma-update ito?
233513 - Production or Plant Engineer | Age: 30 | Education: 15 | English: 20 | Experience: 15 | Total: 80
December 2, 2017 - IELTS (L: 8.0, R: 9.0, W: 6.0, S: 7.0) Competent
September 17, 2018 - Lodge CDR+RSEA, Fast Track
October 9, 2018 - EA Contact, additional requirements
October 16, 2018 - Positive outcome
December 3, 2018 - 1st take PTE-A (L: 86, R: 90, W: 90, S: 90) Superior
February 18, 2019 - Submitted EOI for 189
March 10, 2019 - ITA for 189 Received
April 6, 2019 - Medicals (1st, Expired)
April 10, 2019 - Medicals No Actions Required
April 17, 2019 - Visa Lodged
January 10, 2020 - Updated passport details
January 30, 2020 - CO Contact: Evidence of Relationship
February 6, 2020 - Responded to CO
March 4, 2020 - Updated NBI (Police) Clearance
May 20, 2021 - CO Contact: Re-do Medical, Re-do Police Clearance
June 7, 2021 - Medicals (2nd)
June 8, 2021 - Updated NBI (Police) Clearance
June 9, 2021 - Medicals No Actions Required
June 21, 2021 - Visa Grant
January 9, 2022 - Big Move
Posts: 130Member
Joined: May 27, 2015
Okay na po yan. Ganyan din ako when i updated my passport. Tinanggap sa facility. Sa emedical, yung old passport ko po yung nakalagay but yung sa email and attachment ni co for medical updated na po
Posts: 393Member
Joined: Jul 04, 2017
thank you @kccllj
233513 - Production or Plant Engineer | Age: 30 | Education: 15 | English: 20 | Experience: 15 | Total: 80
December 2, 2017 - IELTS (L: 8.0, R: 9.0, W: 6.0, S: 7.0) Competent
September 17, 2018 - Lodge CDR+RSEA, Fast Track
October 9, 2018 - EA Contact, additional requirements
October 16, 2018 - Positive outcome
December 3, 2018 - 1st take PTE-A (L: 86, R: 90, W: 90, S: 90) Superior
February 18, 2019 - Submitted EOI for 189
March 10, 2019 - ITA for 189 Received
April 6, 2019 - Medicals (1st, Expired)
April 10, 2019 - Medicals No Actions Required
April 17, 2019 - Visa Lodged
January 10, 2020 - Updated passport details
January 30, 2020 - CO Contact: Evidence of Relationship
February 6, 2020 - Responded to CO
March 4, 2020 - Updated NBI (Police) Clearance
May 20, 2021 - CO Contact: Re-do Medical, Re-do Police Clearance
June 7, 2021 - Medicals (2nd)
June 8, 2021 - Updated NBI (Police) Clearance
June 9, 2021 - Medicals No Actions Required
June 21, 2021 - Visa Grant
January 9, 2022 - Big Move
Joined: Aug 19, 2018
I think you can only generate hap id kapag nakapag submit ka na ng Visa 190 application.
Posts: 372Member
Joined: Mar 23, 2020
Hello, tagal ko ng 'di binalikan 'tong site na to since I moved to Ireland. Would just like to ask kung may state ba na open na for offshore applicants? Meron bang updated quick list ng territories na open for offshore for subclass 190? Thanks!
ANZSCO 312111 - Architectural Draftsperson
Location at the time of application: Offshore (Tokyo Japan) / DIY
2020-Mar : Vetassess submission - Priority processing
2020-Apr : Vetassess positive assessment - 5+ years employment
2020-Jun 25 : First take PTE-A Tokyo - Superior
2020-Jun : SkillSelect EOI lodge - 190/491 : 90/100 points
2020 : Covid happened...
2020-Aug : Job Offer - Ireland, Critical Skills Employment Permit path
2020-Oct : Ireland Work permit granted
2020-Oct : EOI auto updated due to age score dedcution - 190/491 : 85/95
2020-Nov 18 : Ireland Employment Visa application
2020-Nov 25 : Ireland work visa approved
2020-Dec 26 : Moved to Dublin from Tokyo
2022-Jun : EOI expired. New EOI lodged with no change in score
2022-Aug : VIC opened for offshore. Lodged ROI for VIC
2022-Sep : NSW opened for offshore. Created new EOI for NSW only
2022-Sep : Removed 491 in my EOI. Only considering 190 for now
2022-Nov 10 : Irish Stamp 4 status approved
2022-Nov 29 : Received pre-ITA from NSW. Yay!
2022-Nov 30 : Received nomination from NSW
2023-Jan 13 : Visa 190 lodged
2023-Feb 21 : Medicals
2023-Feb 29 : Medicals cleared
2023-Mar 15 : Japan PCC uploaded. Officially waiting for grant : )
2023-Nov 23 : NSW 190 granted!
Posts: 13Member
Joined: May 22, 2021
I think Tasmania lang ang open for now. Pero for critical skills.
2021.01.05 | Consultation with an Agent
2021.02.19 | 1st PTE Exam
2021.04.07 | Cancelled PTE Exam due to Enhanced Community Quarantine
2021.05.11 | 2nd PTE Exam achieved higher score for visa 189, 190 and 491
2021.06.16 | Occupational Therapy Council Skills Assessment Positive Outcome
2021.06.21 | Created EOI for Visa 189, 190 and 491 under South Australia
2021.06.29 | Decided to look for an Employer for TSS Visa 482 Employer-Sponsored Visa since the border is still closed for Offshore applicants
2021.07.08 | Interview with Employer from NSW
2021.07.22 | 2nd Interview with Employer
2021.08.03 | Interview with Supervisor
2021.08.11 | Meeting with Employer's Agent
2021.09.21 | Visa Lodgment
2021.09.28 | Travel Restriction Exemption
2021.10.13 | Medical Examination
2021.10.15 | Visa Approval
2021.11.26 | AUSTRALIA
2022.08.22 | Permanent Resident Invitation 189
2022.09.06 | Another Expression of Interest due to wrong information from my previous EOI and agent advised not to lodge visa application
2022.10.06 | New Permanent Resident Invitation 189
2022.10.28 | Visa 189 Application Lodgment
2022.10.31 | Medical Examination
Posts: 393Member
Joined: Jul 04, 2017
Confirm ko lang kung tama ang understanding ko regarding sa "I confirm I have provided information as requested" button sa attach documents na page.
May 2 requirement kasi na hinihingi si CO, PCC and Medical. Kapag ba na-upload ko na yung PCC pero wala pang medical, pwede na i-click yung "I confirm I have provided information as requested" dahil si clinic naman ang maguupload ng medical results? Salamat.
233513 - Production or Plant Engineer | Age: 30 | Education: 15 | English: 20 | Experience: 15 | Total: 80
December 2, 2017 - IELTS (L: 8.0, R: 9.0, W: 6.0, S: 7.0) Competent
September 17, 2018 - Lodge CDR+RSEA, Fast Track
October 9, 2018 - EA Contact, additional requirements
October 16, 2018 - Positive outcome
December 3, 2018 - 1st take PTE-A (L: 86, R: 90, W: 90, S: 90) Superior
February 18, 2019 - Submitted EOI for 189
March 10, 2019 - ITA for 189 Received
April 6, 2019 - Medicals (1st, Expired)
April 10, 2019 - Medicals No Actions Required
April 17, 2019 - Visa Lodged
January 10, 2020 - Updated passport details
January 30, 2020 - CO Contact: Evidence of Relationship
February 6, 2020 - Responded to CO
March 4, 2020 - Updated NBI (Police) Clearance
May 20, 2021 - CO Contact: Re-do Medical, Re-do Police Clearance
June 7, 2021 - Medicals (2nd)
June 8, 2021 - Updated NBI (Police) Clearance
June 9, 2021 - Medicals No Actions Required
June 21, 2021 - Visa Grant
January 9, 2022 - Big Move
Posts: 130Member
Joined: May 27, 2015
Yes po. Nakalagay naman sa status ‘Health examination in progress’ if di pa naaupload ng facility
Posts: 98Member
Joined: Jun 07, 2019
Hi @RheaMARN1171933 , I have a VETASSESS Assessment for Chemist position which will expire on May 2021. Reviewing this list, I feel I am also qualified for Chief Executive or Managing Director. Is this path worth considering?
_Jeremiah 29:11-12 _
"For I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord, plans for welfare and not for evil, to give you a future and a hope. Then you will call upon me and come and pray to me, and I will hear you".
Joined: Dec 16, 2020
Does anyone have idea about doing medical for PR during third trimester of pregnancy? Is it allowed to do or not?
Posts: 130Member
Joined: May 27, 2015
The facility will allow you po to proceed with the medical but they will defer the xray until you give birth. But if you really want to finish na your medical they will allow you to have xray provided you have your OBs med cert and meron naman po silang protective gear for your tummy.
Posts: 457Member
Joined: Feb 23, 2018
hi po, question lang, bakit bumaba points ko from 15 to 10 sa akin pong EOI
previously it was like this:
and now, ganto na sya:
tried searching the web for an answer, pero wala me nakitang information about it.
newly implemented law po ba yun? Just turned 2 years in my current company... tapos nagchange na yung points ko
all the best po!
263111 Computer Network and Systems Engineer | Age: 25 | Education: 15 | English: 20 | Experience: 10 | PY: 5 | CCL: 5
Total: 80/85 on Visa 189/190 Respectively
23.02.2018 | Signed up for the forum. Started gathering Documents and Reviewing for IELTS.
01.06.2018 | Company offered to provide 482 Visa, GRABBED IT!!!
15.10.2018 | 482 Visa Lodged
13.11.2018 | 482 Visa Granted
POEA Processing = took me almost a year to get all documents in place.
07.06.2019 | Finally the BM!!!
01.10.2019 | Started to review for PTE, aiming for Superior scores!
23.02.2020 | PTE Mock Test = L=68/R=64/S=90/W=77
29.02.2020 | PTE Test = L=90/R=85/S=90/W=85 - Got SUPERIOR on the 1st try! Thank You Lord!!!
01.03.2020 | EOI Lodged for Visa 189/190 NSW (80/85)
10.06.2020 | EOI Updated due to PY point addition (80/85)
24.09.2020 | EOI Updated due to Passing NAATI CCL (85/90)
10.05.2021 | Pursuing 186 (DE) - Thank God for His Favour!!!
11.03.2022 | Visa 186 (DE) - Nomination and Visa Application Lodged... Now the waiting begins...
14.01.2023 | Visa 186 (DE) - GRANTED!!! THANK YOU LORD!!!
Citizenship Timeline:
22.01.2024 | Citizenship Application made online. THANK YOU LORD!!!
27.02.2024 | Citizenship Interview & Test Appointment letter Received
11.04.2024 | Citizenship Test passed @ 100%!!! THANK YOU LORD!!!
11.07.2024 | Citizenship Approval!!! THANK YOU LORD!!!
29.10.2024 | Citizenship Invite Received
30.11.2024 | FINALLY A CITIZEN!!!! THANK YOU LORD INDEED!!! that was quite a journey!!!
Posts: 457Member
Joined: Feb 23, 2018
pati yung signature ko pala need ko na palitan! hahaha grabehhhhhhhhhh 80/85 na points lolz
263111 Computer Network and Systems Engineer | Age: 25 | Education: 15 | English: 20 | Experience: 10 | PY: 5 | CCL: 5
Total: 80/85 on Visa 189/190 Respectively
23.02.2018 | Signed up for the forum. Started gathering Documents and Reviewing for IELTS.
01.06.2018 | Company offered to provide 482 Visa, GRABBED IT!!!
15.10.2018 | 482 Visa Lodged
13.11.2018 | 482 Visa Granted
POEA Processing = took me almost a year to get all documents in place.
07.06.2019 | Finally the BM!!!
01.10.2019 | Started to review for PTE, aiming for Superior scores!
23.02.2020 | PTE Mock Test = L=68/R=64/S=90/W=77
29.02.2020 | PTE Test = L=90/R=85/S=90/W=85 - Got SUPERIOR on the 1st try! Thank You Lord!!!
01.03.2020 | EOI Lodged for Visa 189/190 NSW (80/85)
10.06.2020 | EOI Updated due to PY point addition (80/85)
24.09.2020 | EOI Updated due to Passing NAATI CCL (85/90)
10.05.2021 | Pursuing 186 (DE) - Thank God for His Favour!!!
11.03.2022 | Visa 186 (DE) - Nomination and Visa Application Lodged... Now the waiting begins...
14.01.2023 | Visa 186 (DE) - GRANTED!!! THANK YOU LORD!!!
Citizenship Timeline:
22.01.2024 | Citizenship Application made online. THANK YOU LORD!!!
27.02.2024 | Citizenship Interview & Test Appointment letter Received
11.04.2024 | Citizenship Test passed @ 100%!!! THANK YOU LORD!!!
11.07.2024 | Citizenship Approval!!! THANK YOU LORD!!!
29.10.2024 | Citizenship Invite Received
30.11.2024 | FINALLY A CITIZEN!!!! THANK YOU LORD INDEED!!! that was quite a journey!!!
Joined: Jun 09, 2021
hello po! magandang araw! magtatanong lang po sana. I am a Mechatronics Engineering graduate. No PRC license kasi wala naman licensure exam. tapos po ang naging line of work ko is pang Mechanical Engr sa design. Ngayon si hubby ko po ay isang RME. So sa plano po is sya ung main applicant for visa 189, pero not very confident kami sa ielts and sa age nya kasi 33 na sya. so bumaba na agad ung points. If idadagdag ako sa partner skills, +5 (if english competent) or +10 (if meron din skill asssessment worth 40k ) lang ung maximum na maidadagag ko sa points nya.
if ako naman ang magiging main applicant, ang kakalabasan ng skillset ko ay mechanical engineering draftsperson pero wala sya sa visa class 189. ang meron ay 489. pagkakaintindi ko kasi sa 489 ay need ulit magayos ng papers pag magappy for PR after 3 yrs? madugo po kaya ang processing nun?
Meron po ba kayong idea or other options na pwedeng maisuggest para mapush through namin ung application? On going po kami sa review ng ielts namin. second option is mag pte kami if mababa ung ielts para pangdagdag points.
Maraming salamat po sa sasagot
Joined: Mar 10, 2016
Hold off doing this until after you give birth. Once you’ve added your baby in the application, you can all do the medical together. No point risking baby’s health when your application won’t progress anyway until you’ve supplied baby’s medical clearance. You’re better off doing all these at the same time
Posts: 130Member
Joined: May 27, 2015
Just what i did. Hehehe i waited til i gave birth
Joined: Dec 16, 2020
Will they proceed the application if x-ray not done or they will grant visa and ask to do x-ray later?