Engineers Australia Skills Assessment

unanimous21 · June 2011

Many Thanks Jelms! Cheers! saan sa Oz balak nio mag migrate? sana magkita kita tau dun! hahaha! I'm just bit worried kasi naka address un dito sa office. uwi pa naman aq ng Pinas until 1st July so baka dumating xa while i'm away. whew. thanks again.

JClem · June 2011

Hi Unanimous21,

Timelines were:

Feb. 13 - Sent my complete requirements to EA thru DHL
Feb. 16 - They acknowledged my application. Nakita ko sa credit card ko.
Feb. 24 - I received the OR with the Contact ID through post
Jun. 08 - This is the day after my 16th week. I inquired to EA through email if my result is already available
Jun. 09 - EA replied and sent a file copy of the result with a positive assessment (professional engr, skill level 1)
Jun. 15 - GOT THE OFFICIAL COPY ALREADY!

Never thought it would be that fast. Dumating agad compared dun sa mga nabasa ko sa kabilang forum na more than a month before nila nakuha yung official copy.

Hi Jelms,

Baka umabot pa kayo before July 1 na meron ng official copy. God bless!

jelms · June 2011

Guys:-)...Positive ang assessment ni husband:-)...Nag reply sa amin iyong assessor ngayon lang. Professional Engineer (Electronics Engineer, ANZSCO 233411). Thanks God. Thanks also sa prayers. God Bless.

JClem · June 2011

Congrats Jelms!

Hope ma-receive nyo na din agad yung official copy. Got mine last June 15 kaya makakapaglodge kami before July 1. God bless!

Guys:-)...Positive ang assessment ni husband:-)...Nag reply sa amin iyong assessor ngayon lang. Professional Engineer (Electronics Engineer, ANZSCO 233411). Thanks God. Thanks also sa prayers. God Bless.

jelms · June 2011

@JClem : Thanks :-)...Pwede kaya maka lodge na tapos ang gagamiting evidence sa assessment is iyong reply sa email ni assessor? Baka kasi mga July pa darating iyong hard copy ni EA kasi pag dito sa Cebu, talagang delayed iyong sulat darating dito at baka maabotan kami ng July sa kahihintay noon. Hayz...

JClem · June 2011

Try mo na din Jelms. Just don't forget to inform them that you will send the official copy as soon as you have them.

@JClem : Thanks :-)...Pwede kaya maka lodge na tapos ang gagamiting evidence sa assessment is iyong reply sa email ni assessor? Baka kasi mga July pa darating iyong hard copy ni EA kasi pag dito sa Cebu, talagang delayed iyong sulat darating dito at baka maabotan kami ng July sa kahihintay noon. Hayz...

Jhonusp · July 2011

Hi to all. Guys i need some of your opinion and advise. I am a grad of ME and working overseas. My question is eventhough im a grad of engineering sa atin pero now im not working sa capacity ng full pledge engr but nasa assistant engr (pang technician level). Mas pinili ko ito for monetary reason (OT). Now ano kelangan ko ipa assess sa EA professional engr ba or engineering associate/technologist? :-|

JClem · July 2011

Hi Jhonusp,

Professional engineer

You read the competency elements ng professional engineer sa EA booklet and possible naman na namemeet mo siguro yun. You can download the booklet dun sa first post ko sa taas. How many years have you been working na po ba? And as far as I know din kasi mas acceptable ang professional engineer. You can use your college projects as one of your career episodes.

Hi to all. Guys i need some of your opinion and advise. I am a grad of ME and working overseas. My question is eventhough im a grad of engineering sa atin pero now im not working sa capacity ng full pledge engr but nasa assistant engr (pang technician level). Mas pinili ko ito for monetary reason (OT). Now ano kelangan ko ipa assess sa EA professional engr ba or engineering associate/technologist? :-|

Phil_Sing_Au · July 2011

Hi Guys im a newbie here!

@JClem - congratulation nga pala at approve kayo ng husband mo sa EA assessment. Naka pag lodge na ba kayo sa DIAC? By the way magkano na po ba lahat ang naibayad nyong fees including assessmet ng EA tapos pag lodge sa DIAC, IELTS at iba pang expenses. May i know roughly, challenge din kasi pag wala fund na pambayad eh! :-(

About sa CDR mukhang challenging ang pag gawa nito. Baka may mga kababayan tau dyan na willing mag share ng actual CDR para maging pattern. Sana may makatulong lalo na sa line ng Mechanical Engineering.

JClem · July 2011

Hi Phil_Sing_Au!

Thanks! I assume you're in Singapore.

We already lodged our application last June 26. Humabol talaga kami para di abutan ng new point system. Please pray for us ha.

Anyway, below is the breakdown of our expenses per head (estimated). If you have a partner na included sa application mo and you will claim partner's points, multiply it by 2 except yung visa fee kasi fixed na yung bayad kahit more than 1 kayo dun sa application.

IELTS Exam - 9,000
IELTS result sent to Engineers Australia - 1,500
Engineers Australia Assessment Fee - 20,000
DIAC - 120,000 (nun July 1 nag-increase na sila. From AUD 2575, naging 2900+ na. That's approximately 137,000 pesos)

Other expenses you need to budget:
Medical - 3,500
Police Clearance (NBI) - 200
Birth certificates, marriage certificates, diploma, etc. - 500
Notarization of Documents - 300 lang inabot ko, 30 pesos per document lang kasi sa tabi-tabi lang. Hehe!

Sa iba kasi 100 pesos.
Airfare - 25,000 (one way)

Tas accommodation and pocket money, eto pinag-iipunan namin sa ngayon ng husband ko. Medyo mahal ang rent sa AU.

Praying na sana pagdating namin dun, at least isa samin is may work na.

Regarding sample CDRs naman, try to sign-up sa forum ng http://philippines.com.au/. Madami samples dun and as far as I can remember meron for ME. Yun nga lang madalas down yun site nila kaya tsambahan mo na lang na up.

Not sure if may na-miss out ako sa breakdown ng expenses. But if may questions ka, don't hesitate to ask. I hope this helps.

God bless sa EA mo and sa visa application mo.

Phil_Sing_Au · July 2011

@JClem Thank You JClem sa prompt reply mo.....Well, what can i say base sa computation mo. If we sum up except payment sa visa each person cost approximately about 60,000 pesoses. If both husband and wife multiply by 2 is 120,000 pesoses na. If add mo na yung para sa visa na 120k eh ang total nya is 240,000 pesoses! Wah san ako kukuha ng ganung kalake na pera. :-(

If sa new rate na 137,000 pesoses + 120,000 pesos = 257,000 pesoses na let say 260,000 pesos na. Grabe ang mahal!!! Lake ng income ng australian government sa immigration palang.
My Australian dream pano ko kaya maaabot! :-D If mag agent pa additional na 120,000 pesoses pa. Grand total approximately 400,000. Wah!!!!

Thanks, marami kang kababayan natin natulungan mo sa information you share. Keep positive na ma approve ang visa nyo ng husband mo. Keep the faith!!! \:D/

JClem · July 2011

Philippines_Singapore_Australia! Based sa username mo maaabot mo Australian dream mo.

I suggest ang pag-ipunan mo muna is yung IELTS and EA. Tas while waiting for the result ng EA, usually 4 months, ipon ka naman for visa fee. Once ma-lodge mo na and while waiting for the result, ipon ka naman for medical, airfare, pocket money. Usually naman they give 1 year before ka lumipad to AU.

Well, madali lang sabihin mag-ipon pero sa totoo lang mahirap talaga mag-ipon. Pero unti-unti makakarating din kayo and tayong lahat.

Phil_Sing_Au · July 2011

Hayz sana nga Miss JClem maabot ko Australian dream q. Yap sana nga makaipon ako. Sana gumanda ang stock market(mag bull run) kasi naka invest ang certain % ng savings ko. Yung passive income ang plan ko gamitin sa pag apply ng visa.

By the way di ko makita sa forum ng Philippine.au.com yung CDR you mentioned. Currently browsing the website at ang dame page ng engineer forum na yun. More than 300 pages ata eh. Baka naman may link kang alam. It will surely help me pati na rin ang iba nating kababayan.

Cheers..More power!

JClem · July 2011

Naku sorry di ko maaccess yung site. :-( Pero as far as I can remember dun sa first 2 or 3 pages nung engineers forum merong link sa page kun san mo makikita mga sample CDRs.

Hayz sana nga Miss JClem maabot ko Australian dream q. Yap sana nga makaipon ako. Sana gumanda ang stock market(mag bull run) kasi naka invest ang certain % ng savings ko. Yung passive income ang plan ko gamitin sa pag apply ng visa.

By the way di ko makita sa forum ng Philippine.au.com yung CDR you mentioned. Currently browsing the website at ang dame page ng engineer forum na yun. More than 300 pages ata eh. Baka naman may link kang alam. It will surely help me pati na rin ang iba nating kababayan.

Cheers..More power!

Phil_Sing_Au · July 2011

Hi,

Ask ko lang regarding sa Cert of Employment.
1. Kelangan ba strictly eh ang nakalagay sa COE eh yung talagang naka state dun sa Booklet 6? Lahat ba ng item kelangan andun. Kasi yung mga COE ko from previous employment eh di ganun ang laman eh. Kasi lahat naman tau di ganun ka detailed nakukuha nating cert of employment. Kailangan pa ba ulit humingi ng bago na tailored sa requirement ng DIAC?
2. Ano advisable yung HR manger ang pipirma ng COE or yung Immediate manager? Kalimitan kasi HR manager napirma sa COE pero naisip ko lang pag tumawag ang officer ng DIAC eh di naman alam ng HR manager what detailed ng work natin at performance natin sa work.
3. Pano pag nagsarado na yung previous company na where i work? Sigurado di na ito makokontak ng DIAC for information.
4. Pano halimbawa na mag re-request ulit me g bagong COE from previous company, now kung ang reference mo eh yung manager mo dati pero nag resign na din sa company. I assume kasi na tatawag ang officer from DIAC at mag i-inquire regarding sa employment mo.
5. Lastly mali ba or tama pagkaintindi ko yung Certificate of Employment e same lang sa employment reference na binabangit dito sa booklet 6?

Sana may makasagot at magbigay ng tips kung pano ang mga ginawa nyo sa pagkuha ng COE sa mga company na pinag workan nyo.

Thanks sa lahat ng sasagot at marami kayong matutulungan sa mga applicant na may ganito din katanungan. Sana marami magbigay ng opinyon tungkol dito!

ETO PO YUNG REQUIREMENTS SA BOOKLET 6

"1. Obtain evidence such as employment references and detailed duty statements covering the
required period. Employment references must:
• be written on the official letterhead of the company or government department providing the reference;
• The letterhead should indicate clearly the full address of the company and any telephone, fax numbers, e-mail and website addresses;
• The name and position of the person authorised to sign the employment reference should be typed or stamped below that person’s signature;
• The contact telephone number of the person writing the reference should be included in the
letter;
• The letter should indicate the exact period of employment (including whether permanent or
temporary, full or part-time), position(s) held, the 5 main duties undertaken and the salary
earned – positions should not be described by generic titles (eg. research officer, public
servant) but according to the nature of the duties undertaken (eg. research chemist, accounts
clerk); and
• A payslip from your current employment should also be included – this is especially
important from applicants working in government departments."

JClem · July 2011

1. Kelangan ba strictly eh ang nakalagay sa COE eh yung talagang naka state dun sa Booklet 6? Lahat ba ng item kelangan andun. Kasi yung mga COE ko from previous employment eh di ganun ang laman eh. Kasi lahat naman tau di ganun ka detailed nakukuha nating cert of employment. Kailangan pa ba ulit humingi ng bago na tailored sa requirement ng DIAC?

Yes, as much as possible andun lahat ng details na hinihingi ni DIAC. If di ka na makakakuha from your previous employers, you can submit a notarized statutory declaration with all the required details ni DIAC then state mo na lang dun na di ka makakakuha ng COE because either close na company or di sila nagrerelease ng COE na may JD. Then support it na lang with payslips, employment contracts, tax certificates or even yung mga certificates of SSS/Pag-ibig/Philhealth contributions mo.

2. Ano advisable yung HR manger ang pipirma ng COE or yung Immediate manager? Kalimitan kasi HR manager napirma sa COE pero naisip ko lang pag tumawag ang officer ng DIAC eh di naman alam ng HR manager what detailed ng work natin at performance natin sa work.

Yung sa husband ko HR manager ang nag-sign. Usually HR knows the type of work that you do or your job description. Yun lang naman veverify ni DIAC. They are after your work experience.

3. Pano pag nagsarado na yung previous company na where i work? Sigurado di na ito makokontak ng DIAC for information.

Same answer sa number 1, you can submit a statutory declaration. State there na close na yung company and di na yun tatawagan ni DIAC basta with supporting documents lang tulad nun namention ko sa 1.

4. Pano halimbawa na mag re-request ulit me g bagong COE from previous company, now kung ang reference mo eh yung manager mo dati pero nag resign na din sa company. I assume kasi na tatawag ang officer from DIAC at mag i-inquire regarding sa employment mo.

Kay HR manager ka na hihingi and papa-sign.

5. Lastly mali ba or tama pagkaintindi ko yung Certificate of Employment e same lang sa employment reference na binabangit dito sa booklet 6?

Almost the same. Pero for common understanding, COE and employment reference are used interchangeably sa mga forums. Pero if magsusubmit ka na sa DIAC, better use the term employment reference.

Phil_Sing_Au · July 2011

Thanks Miss JClem sa response mo. Naliwanagan na ako na notarized statutory declaration lang pala ang kailangan ko. Ayan mga kabayan, if you have the same question as mine nasagot na po ng maliwanag.

Thanks and GOD bless!!!

Bryann · July 2011

@JClem miss JClem meron lang ako gusto clarify kasi nabasa ko po na hindi ka daw pwede gumawa ng sarili mo Statutory Declaration, na kailangan daw po is a co-worker na mas mataas sayo ang position and knows the nature of your work. So meaning most probably ay same project or same team kayo. Tama po ba ito? Or pwede kahit yun applicant na lang ang gumawa ng stat dec at ipa-notarize na lang?

JClem · July 2011

Hi Bryann! Sakin ako lang po gumawa ng statutory declaration ko. I had it notarized. I did not hear anything naman from EA. San mo po nabasa? I think sa Australian Computer Society (ACS) required ang stat. dec. na may witness na manager or co-worker.

Bryann · July 2011

@JClem miss JClem tama ka po, baka nga po sa ACS lang ang ganun dapat gawin. Nabasa ko po kasi dun na dapat supervisor or mas mataas ang position sayo nun gagawa, and complete with contact details. Tapos hindi basta any manager, dapat alam un line of work mo. So parang dapat ka-team or kasama mo sa project.

Phil_Sing_Au · August 2011

Hi sa mga engineers...Ask ko lang po sa pag gawa ng career episode, halimbawa nag work ako sa isang company tapos i believe na ok na ok xa na isama sa career episode ko. Ngayun ang siste eh nagsarado na po yung company long time ago. Is it advisable na isama ko pa ito sa pag gawa ko ng career episode? Kasi di po ba nag ve-verify ang EA, eh sarado na po xa kaya no chance na makapag verify if really nakapag work nga ako sa company na ito. Pero i still have may Certificate of Employment. Any inputs from anybody is highly appreciated. Thanks!

JClem · August 2011

Gagawa ka ng Statutory Declaration then support it with payslips, ITRs, certificate of SSS/PhilHealth/Pagibig contribution, contracts, etc or whatever employment documents na meron ka pa.

Hi sa mga engineers...Ask ko lang po sa pag gawa ng career episode, halimbawa nag work ako sa isang company tapos i believe na ok na ok xa na isama sa career episode ko. Ngayun ang siste eh nagsarado na po yung company long time ago. Is it advisable na isama ko pa ito sa pag gawa ko ng career episode? Kasi di po ba nag ve-verify ang EA, eh sarado na po xa kaya no chance na makapag verify if really nakapag work nga ako sa company na ito. Pero i still have may Certificate of Employment. Any inputs from anybody is highly appreciated. Thanks!

Phil_Sing_Au · August 2011

Hi Miss JClem....thanks for answering my queries. Just want your opinion for example naka pag lodge na me sa DIAC, then after lodging nag decide me mag transfer sa ibang company kahit ala pa result ng assessment from DIAC. Advisable ba yun or should i stick sa present company while waiting sa result ng assessment ng DIAC. Thanks!

JClem · August 2011

I believe ok lang naman if you transfer to another company. Pero I think you have to inform them of the changes sa employment.

TotoyOZresident · September 2011

Hi Miss JClem....thanks for answering my queries. Just want your opinion for example naka pag lodge na me sa DIAC, then after lodging nag decide me mag transfer sa ibang company kahit ala pa result ng assessment from DIAC. Advisable ba yun or should i stick sa present company while waiting sa result ng assessment ng DIAC. Thanks!

Kapag may CO kana sabihin mo agad na lumipat ka ng company this month. send mo sa CO mo ang PDF copy ng employment contract mo. cheers

jimbob · October 2011

Hello, balak ko po apply ng Skill assessment sa EA, pano po ba ang procedure at ano po ang mga requirements sa online skill assessment? Meron po ba kayong link sa online application?

Maraming salamat po ... Btw, ECE po ako at currently working here in Singapore as Product Engineer sa isang MNC.

jimbob · October 2011

Hi, nasa SOL po ang work ko (ECE po ako). may nabasa po ako na dapat mag submit ng Competency Demonstration Report (CDR) kung magpapa-assess ka po sa EA, tama po ba ito?
Paano po pala magpapa-assess sa EA? Ano po ang mga requirements? Paki share naman po ng information para makakapag-umpisa na. Balak ko kc 175 (kung ok na IELTS ko) or 176 na lang.

Thank you po in advance...

JClem · October 2011

Hi Jimbob!

Quoting my first post in this thread:

For engineers who would like their skills to be assessed by Engineering Australia, below is the link where you can find all the details and requirements in submitting your application.

http://www.engineersaustralia.org.au/about-us/role-activities/msa/msa_home.cfm

It's important that you download the Migration Skills Assessment Booklet and READ and UNDERSTAND it thoroughly. In case you have any questions or clarifications, you can post it here.

For engineers naman who are already in the stage of doing their career episodes and summary statement, below is a sample:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/23882819/gustavo-valencia-career-episodes-modificado

God bless us all!

Hello, balak ko po apply ng Skill assessment sa EA, pano po ba ang procedure at ano po ang mga requirements sa online skill assessment? Meron po ba kayong link sa online application?

Maraming salamat po ... Btw, ECE po ako at currently working here in Singapore as Product Engineer sa isang MNC.

JClem · October 2011

Yes, tama po. Kelangan mo gumawa ng CDR. Medyo matrabaho gawin yun pero tiyagaan lang.

Lahat ng requirements and kelangan mo malaman, nasa booklet na madodownload mo dun sa site na sinend ko.

Regarding naman if 175 or 176, if gusto mo faster processing ng application go for 176. Hanap ka na ng sponsors as early as possible. The disadvantage lang is you have to stay and work dun sa state na magssponsor sayo for 2 years, medyo limited ang opportunity mo. Unlike kapag 175 kahit san pwede yun nga lang ang disadvantage naman is mas matagal ang processing.

Hi, nasa SOL po ang work ko (ECE po ako). may nabasa po ako na dapat mag submit ng Competency Demonstration Report (CDR) kung magpapa-assess ka po sa EA, tama po ba ito?
Paano po pala magpapa-assess sa EA? Ano po ang mga requirements? Paki share naman po ng information para makakapag-umpisa na. Balak ko kc 175 (kung ok na IELTS ko) or 176 na lang.

Thank you po in advance...