Bakit Australia?

LokiJr · January 2012

@ozpinoy, onga nakita ko sa cnn kahapon, umabot ng 37 sa sydney! Kakatakot...ilang buwan tinatagal ng ganun kainit na panahon?

TotoyOZresident · January 2012

@ozpinoy, onga nakita ko sa cnn kahapon, umabot ng 37 sa sydney! Kakatakot...ilang buwan tinatagal ng ganun kainit na panahon?

sa melbourne nga eh last week 39 may nag 40 lampas pa sa ibang lugar

mimaahk · January 2012

Ang init pala. Gaano po katagal ang summer dyan?

TotoyOZresident · January 2012

Ang init pala. Gaano po katagal ang summer dyan?

ang summer talaga ay December to February... paiba iba naman din ang temperatura. minsan bababa o kaya tataas. dry naman dito eh kaya kahit mainit di ka naman pag papawisan unless kapag sobrang init talaga... pag gabi naman maginaw naman eh minsan maalinsangan mainit din. basta unpredictable din ang temperatura dito at dipende sa lugar din cheers

tootzkie · January 2012

@TotoyOZresident, Pre dito rin ako sa sampaloc nakatira, sa espana malapit sa Quiapo hehehe. Kaya nga sanay akong maraming tao, sanay lumabas ng 2am para bumili ng chickenjoy sa jolibee or sipao sa 7-11. Alam mo naman dito sa lugar natin 24 hrs maraming tao sa labas ng kalsada. Kaya tanggap ko nang culture shock ang aabutin ko dyan hahahaha.

TotoyOZresident · January 2012

@TotoyOZresident, Pre dito rin ako sa sampaloc nakatira, sa espana malapit sa Quiapo hehehe. Kaya nga sanay akong maraming tao, sanay lumabas ng 2am para bumili ng chickenjoy sa jolibee or sipao sa 7-11. Alam mo naman dito sa lugar natin 24 hrs maraming tao sa labas ng kalsada. Kaya tanggap ko nang culture shock ang aabutin ko dyan hahahaha.

since birth ako sa bilibid viejo quiapo lapit lang sa san sebastian likod lang nmin ever gotesco recto.. then lumipat kami sa dapitan maceda. walking distance lang ang kainan duon daming tao. pagpunta mo dito iba lalo kung sa suburb ka nakatira halos lahat nakasakay sa kotse pa punta sa pupuntahan nila. wala ka makikita na naglalakad. kung sa city ka dun madaming tao pero dipende din kung anung city ka kaya maninibago ka talaga. dapat mag gf ka muna dyan para may kausap ka sa skype at di ka malungkot then kung stablished kana staka mo pakasalan gf mo at dalhin mo dito. Good luck..

engr_boy · January 2012

newbie lang po. very informative yung thread na ito. maki-sawsaw na rin po ako.

i live and work in singapore. may job offer just recently sa australia. nag-aayos na ng papel.

monthly bills

PUB utilities (gas, electricity, water) - 85 sgd (63 aud)
Internet, Phone Bill - 70 sgd (52 aud)
Rent - share the flat with 4 people - solo room with aircon - 475 sgd (354 aud)
*note: mura yung place namin.. 1900 sgd/monthly
Food - 450 sgd (335 aud) ( note: matakaw ako hahaha at mahilig sa chichiria)

excluded pa yung toiletries, gimiks, household supplies and transpo (may company pickup ako)

hope that helps in the comparison.

mimaahk · January 2012

@engr_boy congrats sa job offer! anong field of work ka? if may i ask

LokiJr · January 2012

I've always loved Singapore and Australia...am not sure though ano lamang ng Australia...is it just the "flora & fauna" and the family culture?

Pansin ko kasi maraming taga SG ang gusto pumunta nga AU pero parang wala ako naririnig na galing AU na gusto lumipat ng SG naman hehe (just asking)

TotoyOZresident · January 2012

I've always loved Singapore and Australia...am not sure though ano lamang ng Australia...is it just the "flora & fauna" and the family culture?

Pansin ko kasi maraming taga SG ang gusto pumunta nga AU pero parang wala ako naririnig na galing AU na gusto lumipat ng SG naman hehe (just asking)

Pag australian citizen ka at nag work ka sa abroad. ang ka level na sahod mo ay ka level na rin ng mga english expat. dipende sa skilled o position mo. cheers

mimaahk · January 2012

I've always loved Singapore and Australia...am not sure though ano lamang ng Australia...is it just the "flora & fauna" and the family culture?

Pansin ko kasi maraming taga SG ang gusto pumunta nga AU pero parang wala ako naririnig na galing AU na gusto lumipat ng SG naman hehe (just asking)

@LokiJr very true! ...actually kahit mga locals dito sa Singapore madami din na mas pinipili mag-migrate sa Australia, given the job opportunity... siguro dahil na din sa education, lifestyle & culture.

redcherry · January 2012

Bata pa ako pangarap na namin ng lolo ko na tumira ako sa Australia. Ngayong wala na si lolo, hopefuly kahit papaano matupad ko yung pangarap namin.

engr_boy · January 2012

@mimaahk, land surveyor ako sa singapore. pero may job experience ako as a GIS analyst, puwede rin third stringer point guard sa inter-brgy (hahaha joke!)

siguro pinakamalaking factor why people working/living in singapore want to migrate to australia is yung laid-back culture dyan. work-life balance ba. marami akong family members na nasa melbourne and my titas would always say na less hectic at stressful ang buhay sa australia compared sa singapore. and the pay doesn't suck too. (^_^))..

ps -- just to bring up the positive things in singapore. a very cosmopolitan city, kung gimikero ka.. pa-umagahan ang mga bars and beach parties sa sentosa and clark quay. kung addict ka sa shopping, halos bi-monthly eh may sale somewhere. the much-awaited IT sale is like 4 times a year. very safe and very disciplined group of people. sobrang masunurin sa batas trapiko. crime rate is almost nil (bored na bored ang mga pulis dito). the city is hi-tech and very wired. free-wifi almost anywhere (1 out of 10 singaporean owns an iphone) kahit si auntie na tindera ng isda sa wet market eh naka-iphone4S LOL!. the transport system is one of the best in the world. it's easy to use, fast and efficient.

OzPinoy · January 2012

@LokiJr what's nice about the weather is it keeps on changing... which is somewhat good because di ka masi sick & tired.. pag summer umaabot ng 40 pero ilang oras lang naman lalamig na naman ng 20 sa gabi so ok lang.. sa winter naman lumalamig din ng almost zero pero wala naman snow sa mababang lugar. Di mo sasabihing i'm sick and tired of this weather..

LokiJr · January 2012

@engr_boy, ang sabi naman ng kaibigan ko na nasa Singapore ngayon, kung magimik ka at madalas yun, madali mo rin daw mapupuntahan lahat sa bansa kasi di siya ganun kalaki hehe

@ozpinoy, di ba uso diyan ang sakit kasi pabago-bago ng panahon? Ang nagustuhan ko sa Australia (correct me if I'm wrong) 3-4 months lang yung kainitan, the rest of the year malamig lamig na?

aldousnow · January 2012

@TotoyOZ tiga bilibid viejo ka pala dati. baka nagkakasalubong tayo dun. lage kami nag bibilyar dun nung hayskul. sa NTC ko naghayskul. hehehe.

chiffonscarf · March 2012

Hi, noob lang and my first post. Here's my opinion kung bakit Aus:
Australia pros
1. Employment - in my opinion madaling makahanap ng trabaho (generally) and mas malaki ang minimum compare to canada. And most of all, skillset and experience naka match sa trabaho mu (no need aussie exp.)
2. Mura ang white goods (electronics, computer, etc.) pwde mu pang tawaran.
3. Madaling bumili ng gold bars/bullion gold coins or silver bars/bullion/coins for investment. You can sell it here in Aus pero maliit lang ang profit. ang advise sa akin is to sell outside Aus.
4. Laid back ang trabaho at ang environment. work life balance. relax life style.
5. Outdoor ang mga tao dito, mahilig mag-travel, malapit ang aus sa new zealand, fiji or indonesia. Mostly ng mga nakilala ko nakapag euro-trip na. Mura pamasahe mag travel interstate brisbane, melbourne, sydney.
6. Weather is great parang pinas minus humidity. Winter kahit light jacket lang. Summer, maraming naka mini skirt.
7. Malapit sa pinas, may direct flight ang qantas from darwin to naia 8hrs lng.
8.Hindi masyadong na-apektuhan ang aus nung global crisis. Maganda ang pamamalakad ng government.

Australia cons
1. Sobrang taas ng cost of living. $100/week budget grocery sa woollies or coles. Mahal ang renta, mahal ang sine, mahal kumain sa labas, mahal kuryente doble sa canada, may bayad ang tubig sa canada libre lang (or siguro included na yun sa mga council fees dito sa aus separate).
2. prices of property are ridiculously expensive.
3. Madaming lasengo dito. Kahit nga mga meeting sa tanghali or hapon nag-seserve sila ng alak or beer. Well, sa mga mganginginom ok dito.
4. Security is not so much safe - uso mga scams, mga lasengo dito nanggugulo, vandalism pero mas safe compared sa pinas.
5. Hindi maganda ang medicare system, kasi 75% lang ang covered tapos may restrictions pa. Magastos magkasakit. You need to apply for private health insurance tapos limited din ang benefits (hindi ito optional, required ito pag wla kang private health i-tatax ka ng govt.)
6. Mataas ang tax, tapos meron pang bagong carbon tax na i-implement starting next financial year, lalo pang tataas ang cost of living.
7. Mabagal ang internet, sa canada nakaka 8megabytes/second ako dito 2 megabytes na lang. Well, it better pa rin compare sa pinas.
8. Hindi magandang magswimming sa beach, maraming pating at jellyfish.
9.Right hand drive, left side of the road.

Hmm cons outnumbered pros.

LokiJr · March 2012

Hehe hindi naman masyadong negative yung cons na binanggit ni Sir David. hehe

Dun lang po sa medicare... the reason why it's covered up to 75% of the amount only is because Australian residents are required to purchase private health insurance, which should cover the remaining 25%. To enforce that to all Aussies, they are taxed more if they do not buy their own insurance

stolich18 · March 2012

ahh that explains it. :-) tnx @LokiJr.
by the way, question lng. lets say a couple is earning around 1.1M annual each. tapos ung isa under the 15% tax. and ung isa din merong retirement na 6%. and apart from these, may bonus na 10-14 % ng annual salary every year. may anak sila na isa pero baby pa lng. should they still consider leaving the phils for AU? :-) both are IT consultants and are up for promotion... napaka-hypothetical ng example. hehehe

LokiJr · March 2012

@stolich18 ikaw ba to? haha...andaming variables parang math problem! hehe...

To make an appropriate comparison between two options, compute for their combined after-tax income. May salary ka kasi...then may retirement...then may bonus pa kamo. Each component will be taxed differently...so compute for the after tax sum of that first.

Next step would be to look at seek.com.au and check for the average salaries of their respective jobs...then do the same...compute for their after tax income.

Pag nagawa mo yan...mas maliliwanagan po kayo

Isa pang factor ay kung may sarili nang bahay o negosyo ang mag-asawa na to...Kung mayroon na, mas mainam sigurong sa Pinas na lang sila kasi magugulo lang ang buhay nila kung isusugal pa nila lahat to para lang mag-Australia...Sa ganitong sitwasyon, baka mas praktikal na magbakasyon na lang sila sa Australia paminsan minsan

lock_code2004 · March 2012

kung numbers lang ang titingnan.. madali mag decide, pero may kulang din na mga considerations..
some questions like, do you want your family and your child/ren to grow up in the philippines...
which country do you think can give them a better future (in terms of security, health, education, climate)?..

kung sweldo lang ang usapan, i will not leave my current job/country... but looking at wider perspective.. i decided to make an effort to choose australia..

well, i have not been to australia, but i'm taking chances for my family's future..
(nakakaiyak... parang graduation speech lang)...

k_mavs · March 2012

kung numbers lang ang titingnan.. madali mag decide, pero may kulang din na mga considerations..
some questions like, do you want your family and your child/ren to grow up in the philippines...
which country do you think can give them a better future (in terms of security, health, education, climate)?..

kung sweldo lang ang usapan, i will not leave my current job/country... but looking at wider perspective.. i decided to make an effort to choose australia..

well, i have not been to australia, but i'm taking chances for my family's future..
(nakakaiyak... parang graduation speech lang)...

Tama kayo sir. You'll never know what is better until you give it a try. Each and one of us has their reasons why we opt to migrate to Oz. We just have to weigh our options first before making the move.

stolich18 · March 2012

Thank you @LokiJr and @lock_code2004 for the advices. Really appreciate them. I guess what makes it harder is the fact that we're taking a leap of faith if ever we are granted a visa. But thanks for explaining it from a wider perspective. My husband and I was reminded that it's really the future of our baby/future kids that we must put first before our own needs/wants, even if life here in the Phils. is already comfortable or we've already established our own careers. No one knows the future so we need to trust God more when making decisions. Thanks! :-)

chiffonscarf · March 2012

Hehe hindi naman masyadong negative yung cons na binanggit ni Sir David. hehe

Dun lang po sa medicare... the reason why it's covered up to 75% of the amount only is because Australian residents are required to purchase private health insurance, which should cover the remaining 25%. To enforce that to all Aussies, they are taxed more if they do not buy their own insurance

sa government hospital libre ang medical expenses kapag may medicare card kayo.

Thanks for the info..free din po ang medicare?

LokiJr · March 2012

^ Medicare is 1.5% of your annual gross salary...cheap price to pay if you ask me

@stolich18, kung may ari-arian na kayo, may Php2.2M combined salary kayo...I won't leave the Philippines...at that kind of earning, buhay na buhay na kayo niyan

stolich18 · March 2012

@LokiJr wala pa kaming ari-arian. hehehe savings lng meron. hihi si hubby gusto nya na nka-private school sa AU ang anak namin. waaaahhh kaya ba yun. ang mahal eh. hehe

mimaahk · March 2012

@stolich18 sa mga nabasa ko sa ibang forums & according to some of my friends na nasa OZ na high standard of education sa Australia kahit public school, ang difference lang daw is pag sa private sobrang mahal ng tuition. Ang advice nya sakin kung matutuloy man kami ng OZ is public school nalang primary & secondary para dagdag ipon din yung matitipid & prepare well for university kasi mahal talaga tuition fee sa college.

stolich18 · March 2012

^ yup super mahal tlga ng tuition fee sa College. Parang expect around 20K AUD per year at the minimum. Kahit sa US super mahal. Like sa Stanford, mga ganong range din ata... Thanks @mimaahk

Nagbakasyon friend ng hubby ko dito sa Pinas. Nakamigrate na sila sa AU. Nagkwento sila about schools there na wala raw exam ang mga bata until 15 years old na ata sila. Parang mas ineencourage dun na magtanong yung mga kids kesa magundergo ng exam. Same din daw sa Finland. better daw yun to encourage the child to become more curious and have the love for learning. :-)

LokiJr · March 2012

@stolich18, go for public school...maganda standards ng education sa Australia...sa mga 3rd world countries lang naman hindi dekalidad ang public schools.

tulad ng sabi ni mimaahk, yung gagastusin niyo sana sa private schooling, itabi niyo iyon para sa college.

unanimous21 · March 2012

mga ka forumers, ask lang po ako ng advice kung kakasya na ba ang $10k na baon para sa aming dalawa ng misis ko? Aabot ba un ng 3 mos halimbawa mahirapan kami makahanap ng trabaho? Sa melbourne kami. salamat